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Post by EFMTFTV on Aug 31, 2014 22:37:01 GMT
3 mornings a week
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yellowalf
Saints Reserve Team Player
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Post by yellowalf on Sept 1, 2014 9:16:57 GMT
Saints have goal ruled out for offside. Even though the player didn't touch it ! Who knows what would of happened had that stood and we went in winning at half time. I heard quite a few people saying this at the time, but a player doesn't have to touch the ball to be offside. The offside law is more confusing than it needs to be and there are 14 diagrams in the Interpretation section of the Laws Of The Game 2014 document that offer assistance on what is and what isn't offside; surely that should be enough for FIFA to realise that the law itself isn't clear enough! As best as I can presume, without asking the ref himself, the goal was disallowed because Clarke was in the direct line of the goalie and therefore was considered to be "obstructing the goalkeepers line of vision". In the FIFA document (which can be downloaded from FIFA.com) this is the diagram that explains the theory: In my opinion, the ball was clipped in high enough for the goalie to be able to see it clearly so there's no obstruction of vision and I don't understand what advantage Clarke gained by missing the ball. But them's the rules and perhaps we should be asking how Clarke was offside in the first place as it was the poor timing of his run that knocked off a good goal. With that and the penalty we could have built up a convincing lead by half-time instead of being a goal down after 50 mins.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 16:28:08 GMT
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Post by Hatboy on Sept 1, 2014 17:00:22 GMT
I know the offside rule is more complicated than just the player touching the ball but besides this he wasn't interfering with play or obstructing the keeper or his sight of the ball !
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Post by Boomer on Sept 1, 2014 17:36:43 GMT
Do you know if they also have evening training sessions, the same as other clubs in the Conference South, because a number of the Sutton players have jobs outside football, as well?
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Post by gatekeeper on Sept 1, 2014 19:06:56 GMT
Do you know if they also have evening training sessions, the same as other clubs in the Conference South, because a number of the Sutton players have jobs outside football, as well? The reserve and youth team train in the evenings. The first team have jobs that alow freedom to train in the mornings. Some have worked nights and then gone to training before bed. It does unfortunately restrict who we can entice to the club.
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Post by bob666 on Sept 2, 2014 1:33:52 GMT
I think Ebbsfleet have a similar set up? It must be difficult to combine any sort of career with training three mornings at week. I not blaming Sutton or any other individual club for that matter as but I think the competitive logics that drives the spread of professionalism and quasi-professional into the upper levels of non league is destructive. It creates a pressure on clubs to overspend and I do really see how the players benefit, ultimately the players long term earning potential is reduced. I doubt to will ever happen but think I better to go the other way for all concerned, try to minimise mid week fixtures and encourage clubs to recruit fairly local players so that playing football has minimal impact on players main careers.
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Post by Hatboy on Sept 2, 2014 6:26:33 GMT
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Post by Hatboy on Sept 4, 2014 20:37:36 GMT
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