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Post by Saint on Jan 7, 2015 20:49:04 GMT
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 7, 2015 20:49:30 GMT
Just seen the news that fans are to be segregated on Saturday. I'm a bit shocked by the decision as hadn't got the impression there is any possible trouble - and didn't think they had enough fans anyway (as one of worst supported teams in Conference South www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/attendances/) |
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Post by Saint on Jan 7, 2015 21:06:52 GMT
Police request, quite possibly?
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 7, 2015 21:09:38 GMT
Daft request, certainly  |
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Post by Saint on Jan 7, 2015 21:12:24 GMT
Daft request, certainly Shame it adds more costs for us really.... But I suspect the issue is to do with who are likely to be attending with the Wood. |
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 7, 2015 21:21:24 GMT
Tom Norman confirms decision made after discussions with police, security firm and Wood. As a relative newbie Saint (first game in FA Cup v Enfield in 2013 - my original hometown - but have been to majority of matches this season), is there any recent history if trouble?
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Post by Saint on Jan 7, 2015 21:23:03 GMT
Tom Norman confirms decision made after discussions with police, security firm and Wood. As a relative newbie Saint (first game in FA Cup v Enfield in 2013 - my original hometown - but have been to majority of matches this season), is there any recent history if trouble? 10-15 years ago there was a few issues when meeting them I believe, one stand out game was a County Cup final. However, slightly older posters can probably shed more light. |
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Post by casper on Jan 7, 2015 21:44:49 GMT
Both Watford and Stevenage are away on Saturday and Luton don't have a game. May have some bearing on a possible police request ?
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Post by albansaint on Jan 7, 2015 21:57:16 GMT
So which square metre of the ground will be segregated to house their 10 fans?
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Post by albansaint on Jan 7, 2015 21:57:48 GMT
So which square metre of the ground will be segregated to house their 10 fans?
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Post by Hatboy on Jan 7, 2015 22:29:43 GMT
Arsenal aren't playing until Sunday so some of the Scummers might be turning out for them as they do every now and then
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Post by westwalessaint on Jan 7, 2015 22:33:41 GMT
I remember matches against Wood in the 70s and 80s. There was always rivalry but there were never big crowds. However, if you've ever been to Borehamwood you would know there are some rough old parts of it with some rather dubious characters. These individuals are known to come out from time to time. A small number can cause a big problem. It's certainly not the usual sparse Wood fans.
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Jan 8, 2015 0:00:37 GMT
Rubbish.
Annoying enough to make me wonder whether non league football is worth bothering with.
It's a very minor thing in the grand scheme or things but it alters the experience significantly enough.
If I wanted to watch a game where people can't be trusted to stand alongside one another I'll go and watch my league team.
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Post by Canary Saint on Jan 8, 2015 0:25:27 GMT
Tom Norman confirms decision made after discussions with police, security firm and Wood. As a relative newbie Saint (first game in FA Cup v Enfield in 2013 - my original hometown - but have been to majority of matches this season), is there any recent history if trouble? 10-15 years ago there was a few issues when meeting them I believe, one stand out game was a County Cup final. However, slightly older posters can probably shed more light. Yes the Senior Cup final at Letchworth was not pleasant. About the only time I have been concerned at a football match, maybe because I had my then young son with me at the time. The BW "fans" were particularly unpleasant and the presence of several police cars and if I remember correctly a police dog didn't approve the atmosphere. If my memory serves me right, EFMTFTV had a somewhat interesting evening. |
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jan 8, 2015 2:27:05 GMT
I did, a double decker full of intimidating Borehamwood thugs and I was the only one arrested for possession of a flare
There was also a HCC cup game here in the early 00s that required the police to attend and then segregate the crowd and some older member will remember the league game in the late 90s when they all stormed the pitch
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Post by minty on Jan 8, 2015 2:40:06 GMT
Does the club honestly think that the potential trouble makers will voluntarily go into the away end.
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Post by westwalessaint on Jan 8, 2015 19:41:24 GMT
Does the club honestly think that the potential trouble makers will voluntarily go into the away end. Probably not but they are acting as responsibly as they can. Shame it only takes a few boneheads with barely half a brain cell between them. I sympathize with recentconvert's comments above but happily, segregation is still very much the exception rather than the rule in non league below conference premier. |
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Post by citycentresaint on Jan 8, 2015 19:52:52 GMT
They don't have a firm and couldn't sell out a phone box.
Bizarre decision.
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Jan 8, 2015 19:54:22 GMT
It's only a minor annoyance. I'm a creature of habit and enjoy watching the team attack towards me in the second half. I also like a bit of a stroll round a ground if the mood takes me. However, if we aspire to get into the Conference then it's something we'd have every game.
I went to all three recent Hemel games in the league – the one where a few wallies got out of control at half-time and the police had to get involved and the two recent matches which were segregated as a result.
I assume that the costs of segregating and stewarding are less significant than being hit with a police bill. It's just a shame that the behaviour of a tiny minority spoils things for the rest of us.
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Post by westwalessaint on Jan 8, 2015 20:03:33 GMT
It's only a minor annoyance. I'm a creature of habit and enjoy watching the team attack towards me in the second half. I also like a bit of a stroll round a ground if the mood takes me. However, if we aspire to get into the Conference then it's something we'd have every game. I went to all three recent Hemel games in the league – the one where a few wallies got out of control at half-time and the police had to get involved and the two recent matches which were segregated as a result. I assume that the costs of segregating and stewarding are less significant than being hit with a police bill. It's just a shame that the behaviour of a tiny minority spoils things for the rest of us. Totally agree with all points. |
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Post by citycentresaint on Jan 8, 2015 20:08:13 GMT
Well said Recent Convert.
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Post by grove64 on Jan 9, 2015 16:37:33 GMT
So which square metre of the ground will be segregated to house their 10 fans? Bit rich, Probably the same small amount of room you needed at Vauxhall road with that pathetic turnout. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 9, 2015 16:44:29 GMT
So which square metre of the ground will be segregated to house their 10 fans? Bit rich, Probably the same small amount of room you needed at Vauxhall road with that pathetic turnout. Even by Hemel fans' standards, that is a poor phishing trip..... |
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Post by citycentresaint on Jan 9, 2015 18:25:57 GMT
Why are Hemel fans commenting on this issue?
They should focus on getting a job and putting down the Special Brew.
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jan 9, 2015 18:36:04 GMT
I always find it amusing that a supporter of a club that could barely rustle 150 home fans 5 years ago can comment on crowds
Likewise if Borehamwood ever made the conference national they may have crowds the size of the current Hemel team
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Post by citycentresaint on Jan 10, 2015 0:59:19 GMT
I always find it amusing that a supporter of a club that could barely rustle 150 home fans 5 years ago can comment on crowds Likewise if Borehamwood ever made the conference national they may have crowds the size of the current Hemel team Never a truer word said. Small team with a small team mindset. They wouldn't be able to take 2500 fans away for the playoff final like we did. Even if Special Brew was given out for free, I would be surprised if Hemel could ever take more than 300 fans away. |
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Post by cufcfan on Jan 10, 2015 12:52:21 GMT
I always find it amusing that a supporter of a club that could barely rustle 150 home fans 5 years ago can comment on crowds Likewise if Borehamwood ever made the conference national they may have crowds the size of the current Hemel team Never a truer word said. Small team with a small team mindset. They wouldn't be able to take 2'500 fans away for the playoff final like we did. Even if Special Brew was given out for free, I would be surprised if Hemel could ever take more than 300 fans away. You did not take 2500 fans to the playoff final. More like 1000-1200. At least half of your "fans" on play off final day had probably never been to a St Albans game before and where their because their was no Prem or Football League games. |
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Post by citycentresaint on Jan 10, 2015 13:52:49 GMT
Confident it was in the 2500 region.
We took over the ground and gave Chesham a real footballing lesson.
Was a great day.
COYS
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2015 14:12:51 GMT
Definitely wasn't 2,500... Although I admire your optimism Citycentresaint |
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Post by Hatboy on Jan 10, 2015 14:36:59 GMT
You did not take 2500 fans to the playoff final. More like 1000-1200. At least half of your "fans" on play off final day had probably never been to a St Albans game before and where their because their was no Prem or Football League games. It wasn't anywhere near 2,500 but on the other hand it was a lot more than 1,000-1,200 as well and a lot of old faces that used to go to games turned out I bet a lot more than half of those there had been to see City play before. Not really much point a Chesham fan coming onto our forum to shout the odds when we probably outnumbered them at their own ground ! |
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