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Post by Saint on Jun 4, 2015 19:29:02 GMT
I would like to think all of those have been offered new terms, although I suspect Bailey, and maybe also Taylor, won't be great losses if they do depart...
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jun 4, 2015 21:28:11 GMT
I would hope that Kaloczi and Taylor would be signed up Haven't seen enough of Longe-King or Yearwood but you'd assume that players still playing for the youth team would sign Conf South forms Bailey, I'm afraid, isn't good enough IMO
My understanding with Jack Green is it's the club that seem reluctant to offer a contract to someone who has only played a handful of games, which sounds mad when you saw the impact he made
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 8:47:27 GMT
saint what happened to your post about us having a bigger budget than hemel last year ?
looking forward to new signings rather than re signings !
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Jun 5, 2015 10:57:53 GMT
John Frendo was one of the reasons I went from an occasional visitor to a regular during the early stages of the Southern League Premier promotion season. He gave the team a cutting edge and you felt he could score against anyone. But the step up to the Conference South did not treat him too well. It's interesting to note who he got his 18 goals against. 3 against Cheshunt, 2 against Hadley, 2 against Wealdstone at a time when they were really struggling,
I don't think his style of play suits the division too well. Defenders are quicker and sharper and less easy to bully with his strength. Yes, his movement, touch and ability to get a shot away in tight positions is very good but he had too many quiet games where he failed to impose himself. That doesn't mean I didn't appreciate the work he was having to do, holding the ball up, being the outlet when we were defending, but he wasn't able to hit teams where it hurt as much.
I thought he'd go to a Southern Premier or Ryman Premier team so I was surprised Hemel have gone for him. It'll be interesting to see what impact he has in his second season at this level. Maybe Hemel will benefit from his first slightly difficult season.
Someone more in the know than me will be able to correct me if this is wrong but I had heard that Saints paid Frendo more than Hemel were paying Parkes last season.
Still, it adds a bit more spice to the Saints-Hemel games. I wonder if they will be held over Christmas and New Year again?
As for Jack Green, he's clearly a talent and could have a career in the pro game ahead of him if he gets stronger. Seems strange not to sign on a kid for a year when his ability is so obvious.
I know it's a different game these days but so many top teams fail to trust young players and that attitude has filtered down the leagues. In the 1980s, Norman Whiteside played in a World Cup at 17. Closer to home, Watford signed John Barnes at 17 and he was in the team that got promoted to Division One in his first season. I am not saying Jack Green is Norman Whiteside or John Barnes, just that the more exposure a youngster can get to the men's game in his teens the better.
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Post by Saint on Jun 5, 2015 15:41:08 GMT
John Frendo was one of the reasons I went from an occasional visitor to a regular during the early stages of the Southern League Premier promotion season. He gave the team a cutting edge and you felt he could score against anyone. But the step up to the Conference South did not treat him too well. It's interesting to note who he got his 18 goals against. 3 against Cheshunt, 2 against Hadley, 2 against Wealdstone at a time when they were really struggling, I don't think his style of play suits the division too well. Defenders are quicker and sharper and less easy to bully with his strength. Yes, his movement, touch and ability to get a shot away in tight positions is very good but he had too many quiet games where he failed to impose himself. That doesn't mean I didn't appreciate the work he was having to do, holding the ball up, being the outlet when we were defending, but he wasn't able to hit teams where it hurt as much. I thought he'd go to a Southern Premier or Ryman Premier team so I was surprised Hemel have gone for him. It'll be interesting to see what impact he has in his second season at this level. Maybe Hemel will benefit from his first slightly difficult season. Someone more in the know than me will be able to correct me if this is wrong but I had heard that Saints paid Frendo more than Hemel were paying Parkes last season.
Still, it adds a bit more spice to the Saints-Hemel games. I wonder if they will be held over Christmas and New Year again? As for Jack Green, he's clearly a talent and could have a career in the pro game ahead of him if he gets stronger. Seems strange not to sign on a kid for a year when his ability is so obvious. I know it's a different game these days but so many top teams fail to trust young players and that attitude has filtered down the leagues. In the 1980s, Norman Whiteside played in a World Cup at 17. Closer to home, Watford signed John Barnes at 17 and he was in the team that got promoted to Division One in his first season. I am not saying Jack Green is Norman Whiteside or John Barnes, just that the more exposure a youngster can get to the men's game in his teens the better. Parkes wasn't even the highest wage earner at Hemel last season, so he was definitely below Frendo in terms of pay.
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Jun 5, 2015 19:39:43 GMT
Interesting. I think Parkes could play in the league if he really wanted to so I doubt Hemel could have kept him anyway but he had a much bigger effect on Hemel than Frendo had for us last season.
A midfield of Comley, Parkes and Corcoran would has been excellent.
I gather Parkes will be full time at Ebbsfleet, is that right? I'd have thought with his business interests he might have been open to the offer of a pay rise and part time football...?
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Post by casper on Jun 5, 2015 19:55:49 GMT
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 5, 2015 20:17:33 GMT
Interesting. I think Parkes could play in the league if he really wanted to so I doubt Hemel could have kept him anyway but he had a much bigger effect on Hemel than Frendo had for us last season. A midfield of Comley, Parkes and Corcoran would has been excellent. I gather Parkes will be full time at Ebbsfleet, is that right? I'd have thought with his business interests he might have been open to the offer of a pay rise and part time football...? I understand he will continue to live in Hemel and run his business whilst also being full time at Ebbsfleet...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 9:33:27 GMT
saint what happened to your post about us having a bigger budget than hemel last year ? ? interesting if we did have a bigger budget because of finishing positions as well as squad size and other money coming through such as their pub clubhouse and 3g pitches and stuff
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Post by barringtongobi on Jun 8, 2015 11:48:22 GMT
Kaloczi looked really good in Midfield last season when he came in - broke up opposition attacks well & distributed the ball decently. I'd have thought that he would be pushing to start in the centre of midfield - especially with Coms moving to centre half. Of all the younger players coming through, he's the one I felt could play at a higher level - good touch, balance, athletic and clean in the tackle. Completely agree with Jimmy that there should be no assurances about where anyone plays..
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Post by jj123 on Jun 8, 2015 12:20:18 GMT
saint what happened to your post about us having a bigger budget than hemel last year ? ? interesting if we did have a bigger budget because of finishing positions as well as squad size and other money coming through such as their pub clubhouse and 3g pitches and stuff So was our budget bigger than Hemels then? Saint how do you know? Disappointing that they absolutely outclassed us on NYD and nearly snuck into the play offs with a smaller budget than ours.
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Post by Saint on Jun 8, 2015 12:23:29 GMT
Kaloczi looked really good in Midfield last season when he came in - broke up opposition attacks well & distributed the ball decently. I'd have thought that he would be pushing to start in the centre of midfield - especially with Coms moving to centre half. Of all the younger players coming through, he's the one I felt could play at a higher level - good touch, balance, athletic and clean in the tackle. Completely agree with Jimmy that there should be no assurances about where anyone plays.. I thought Kaloczi gave Beckles some good competition for that role in midfield. Hopefully he re-signs for the new season.
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Post by Hatboy on Jun 8, 2015 12:38:21 GMT
I see Jamie Slabber has left Bromley as they've changed to training three mornings a week
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Post by kroofs on Jun 8, 2015 14:26:16 GMT
Have just seen via the Vanarama web page that George Sykes has been signed by Dartford. Would have been nice to have had him as an option upfront for the forthcoming season.
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jun 8, 2015 18:33:06 GMT
I'm not.I thought he was crap ? interesting if we did have a bigger budget because of finishing positions as well as squad size and other money coming through such as their pub clubhouse and 3g pitches and stuff So was our budget bigger than Hemels then? Saint how do you know? Disappointing that they absolutely outclassed us on NYD and nearly snuck into the play offs with a smaller budget than ours. NYD we probably played our weakest side of the season with injuries etc, don't forget a few days earlier we played them off the park at home only for them to get a last min equaliser I doubt their total budget was smaller than ours, in fact we apparently had the 3rd lowest budget in the divison so that would mean Hemel having the lowest or 2nd lowest, but it does sound like we paid Frendo more than Parkes Should have offered a straight swap in January
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 8, 2015 19:49:49 GMT
You're right - on NYD we were heavily depleted and yet still managed to get back in the match in the second half and nearly nicked a draw. Frendo was paid more than Parkes but I understand that Hemel budget overall was larger than ours.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 7:09:40 GMT
where did you hear that from appy saint ? obviously saint heard something different
maybe we didnt actually have the 3rd lowest budget in th eleague ?
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Post by Saint on Jun 9, 2015 12:03:38 GMT
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Post by casper on Jun 9, 2015 12:03:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 13:45:09 GMT
lowe isnt a huge loss in my opinion looking forward to hearing about new signings with all these wages that have been freed up
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 9, 2015 14:53:15 GMT
My big surprise is the news that Hawkins is staying at Hemel as I had heard that several teams in higher leagues were after him
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jun 9, 2015 19:45:42 GMT
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Post by Hatboy on Jun 9, 2015 20:18:49 GMT
Where did this bol*$%ks about us having a bigger budget than Hemel come from, Father Christmas just flew by my window with the tooth fairy in tow !
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Post by Hatboy on Jun 9, 2015 20:26:00 GMT
I thought I'd post this list of last seasons players in and out to show how many players we used and to show what we finished the season with before any summer signings or players leaving: Joe Welch (Player of the season & Players player of the season) Tom Coulton (Dual Registration) Howard Hall John Kyriacou Lee Chappell - Vice Captain (Captain for the last few games)Tom WardDarren Locke Ben MartinOmar BecklesConnor Roberts (Dual registration) Ian Gayle (Loan)David Longe-King (Dual registration) James Kaloczi Nathan Green (Loan)David Keenleyside (Out on loan) James Comley - Captain (or is he now ?)Charlie Smith (Loan) Danny Green Sean Shields (Loan)Sam CorcoranJack Green - The future Steve WalesJake NicholsonMatty Taylor Charlie Gorman - Injured Lee ClarkeManny SoetanJoe N'GuessanJamal LoweGeoff MitchellJohn Frendo Warren McBeanElliot BuchananMichael MalcolmElliott Bailey (Dual registration) Alex Yearwood Cameron LancasterLoick PiresSimon ThomasJon Nouble (Loan)Definates for the coming seasonRead more: saintschat.proboards.com/thread/2188/players-out-2014-15?page=15#ixzz3ZdwKDRz1
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Post by casper on Jun 10, 2015 20:20:32 GMT
My understanding with Jack Green is it's the club that seem reluctant to offer a contract to someone who has only played a handful of games, which sounds mad when you saw the impact he made This is why a player like Jack Green should be on a contract :- www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33078597Scunthorpe United have signed 19 year old Charlie Goode from Hendon. Hendon boss McCann told his club's website: "The minute Charlie walked through the door you could see he was destined for bigger things. "He's been an absolute credit to himself. His performances have belied his age and I'm confident that he will settle quickly and progress further." Very similar to what Jimmy has said in recent interviews about Jack's performances.
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Post by stalbanandy on Jun 13, 2015 22:06:34 GMT
Bit pissed on a Saturday night so probably my true feelings are coming out: 1. I Thank John Frendo for what he did for the Saints in getting us promoted. No more No less, his head wasn't right last season and was half the player IMO. He could play at a higher level than Conference South with his touch and the right professional attitude. 2. The 2 players left from last season we really need on a contract are Jack Green and James Koloczi. The spine of the team has to be the focal point and these 2 would cement their place and improve on what we have already signed. Having said that I love attacking full backs and we have the best in the league bar NONE! 3. Why do we not get Watford class youngsters on loan? R there any? WE seem to have a good tie up with D&R but Watford came to the Park last season for a well attended pre season friendly and I then had a fiver on them to win the title(close but no cigar!). They are our closest neighbours, get them on board. 4. Jordan Parkes is a class player and was the difference between the sides last season. If he was on less than Frendo then I can only presume Frendo's 'agent' was a great bulls**ter or a Barcelona season ticket holder. 5. I am totally behind the dynamic duo JG and GG, the managers we have had in years. 6. In response to a previous message, the best player I have seen down the Saints in, 35 years experience, was Nigel Johnson, closely followed by the great Steve Clark. Bed time now!
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Post by casper on Jun 14, 2015 8:17:25 GMT
The Dagenham & Redbridge link is down to Harry Wheeler who works there. Would be benefit for the club long term to forge links with other local clubs, such as Watford, Stevenage, Luton and Barnet. Can't always rely on management team links, although it does open doors. Always used to be Leyton Orient players with Steve Castle !
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Post by Saint on Jun 16, 2015 12:03:14 GMT
I see Lewis Hilliard departed St Neots over the weekend.
Wouldn't have minded him pitching up at CP! Although I'm sure he's had a lot of interest.
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 16, 2015 13:20:21 GMT
I'd forgotten that Greg Ngoyi will also be joining the preseason training to see if he is able to show enough quality / fitness to join the squad
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