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Post by heap on Jan 10, 2016 10:41:33 GMT
I don't quite follow Saint regarding Jimmy/Berko?? Regarding the team selection it was merely expressing a concern about my gut feeling. Boomer, I completely agree with you, changes have to be made, going down should not be an option. Big decisions need to be made James has signed for berko as a player , been training and got himself fit . With his attitude and desire great addition for them !! |
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Post by davymac55 on Jan 10, 2016 11:31:56 GMT
It has been a very strange league with The Stoke looking dead and buried before xmas only to rise from the dead. maybe they thought it was easter. Also WSM and others waking up. On the games ive seen(and I wasn't at Sutton-but score says it all- leak five score none) we are pedestrian in midfield and up front at times and defence needs shoring up. Not sure that we can turn things round with a new manager as I believe we are 4 months too late for that one now. Players need to take responsibility. We have players who have either come with reputations and not delivered(theo imo) and others not as good as they think-work it out. But the inconsistent performances have cost us. We have seen glimmers but maybe there is an air of defeatism. We picked up 7/9 after Oxhey so maybe a full strength team and goals on Tuesday will see us bounce back. A few games ago at halfway I felt we needed 30 points out of last half of season. We def need 25 from somewhere and even then some help. Thankfully bottom of table is congested but we need to see sharper crisper play with telling deliveries instead of the dross dead balls we often see. fat lady aint singing yet but she is warming up and we cant afford relegation.
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Jan 10, 2016 12:17:15 GMT
The biggest concern is that we have played more games than everyone else in the bottom places (bar Basingstoke). WSM have two games in hand on us and are three points ahead, which makes next Saturday's game the clichéd 'six-pointer'.
It's going to sound a bit wise after the event to say that elevating Wheeler was a mistake, particularly because there was a mini boost immediately after the managerial change. But the team was in trouble before a fairly forgiving looking Christmas programme and it seems strange to promote someone even less experienced than Gray and Golds.
Gray and Golds had enjoyed a couple of years of more or less continual success. Promotion in their first full season and a very decent first year in the Conference South. This was their first period of adversity and as the weeks went on it was clear that things weren't improving.
But Wheeler has so little experience. Is it really wise to place the club's fate in his hands? Is it really fair on him to expect him to drag a struggling team clear of the relegation zone in his first few weeks as a football manager?
Of course, very few people get their first gig as a manager with a flourishing team because most managerial changes happen when a team is failing but surely the people in charge at the club recognised the severity of the problem?
Relegation back to the Southern League would be disastrous. The club would struggle to justify £15 for Southern League Premier games so a price cut at the terraces would be required. That has a knock-on effect to the budget. Commercial opportunities will be harder to come by. And we'd still need a manager and team capable of challenging for the play-offs.
All that adds up to making the next three-and-a-half months absolutely critical. They just need to find a way to finish fourth from bottom, however ugly it is.
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ebsacfc
Saints Reserve Team Player
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Post by ebsacfc on Jan 10, 2016 12:26:40 GMT
I don't quite follow Saint regarding Jimmy/Berko?? Regarding the team selection it was merely expressing a concern about my gut feeling. Boomer, I completely agree with you, changes have to be made, going down should not be an option. Big decisions need to be made James has signed for berko as a player , been training and got himself fit . With his attitude and desire great addition for them !! Just a shame he hasn't taken some of our players with him. |
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Post by Boomer on Jan 10, 2016 12:42:32 GMT
IMO we have the players, they need proper organisation and the like, changing room rumour that wages haven't been paid, come on Levy get your act together. Have we? I would seriously have to question that and while we are at it, it might be nice for some others at the club to start taking a bit of responsibility for their actions/inactions within this mess that we are in and not to pile it all at Levy's door. No one else, as far as I am aware, knows of these rumours so how is it that you do? Or are you just a provocateur, trying but not succeeding I might add, to make our bad situation worse? |
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Post by saintsdad on Jan 10, 2016 13:38:38 GMT
Let's not kid ourselves here, we were annihilated today, pretty much all over the park. We were nowhere near good enough and quite honestly, it could easily have been 8 or 9. We have 18 league games remaining and make no mistake, we are now in very serious trouble. If the players, manager, chairman, owners and supporters didn't realise it before, they need to realise it now. If this situation isn't resolved as a matter of urgency, I don't think there is too much doubt that we will be back in the Southern Premier next season. I'm sure I read the same thing last week. And the week before that, and the week before that |
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jan 10, 2016 15:56:40 GMT
The biggest concern is that we have played more games than everyone else in the bottom places (bar Basingstoke). WSM have two games in hand on us and are three points ahead, which makes next Saturday's game the clichéd 'six-pointer'. . Saturdays game maybe called off as WSM attempt to play Wealdstone for the 6th time in the FA Trophy on Monday with the winners going to Grimsby on Saturday in the next round Another postponement or a draw would surly see the game scheduled for Saturday as well We could theoretically play Ebsfleet away on Sat as we'd both be without a game and our scheduled game v them is on a Tuesday but I don't know how quickly these things can be sorted out |
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Post by yorkroader on Jan 10, 2016 18:37:50 GMT
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 10, 2016 21:22:11 GMT
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Post by Boomer on Jan 10, 2016 23:26:04 GMT
The biggest concern is that we have played more games than everyone else in the bottom places (bar Basingstoke). WSM have two games in hand on us and are three points ahead, which makes next Saturday's game the clichéd 'six-pointer'. .................Another postponement or a draw would surely see the game scheduled for Saturday as well We could theoretically play Ebbsfleet away on Sat as we'd both be without a game and our scheduled game v them is on a Tuesday but I don't know how quickly these things can be sorted out After yesterday's debacle, surely that's the last thing we would want, should Weston see off Wealdstone this week or play them next Saturday. We are well ahead in our fixtures and I would have thought a little breathing space from the league might be a good opportunity to help ourselves get back on track, in one way or another. Do we really want to hand them 3 points on a plate now, when in 5-6 weeks time, there is a chance for us to have turned things around. |
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gdog
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Post by gdog on Jan 11, 2016 12:49:48 GMT
Just watched the video was bender left exposed as 90% on the video anyway came down his side
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 11, 2016 13:11:56 GMT
He didn't have much support in front of him...
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Post by cityslicker88 on Jan 11, 2016 14:07:54 GMT
Both full backs were exposed due to the fact that we seemed to be playing a narrow diamond across the midfield. We played into Suttons hands as they are terrific in the wide areas. Not sure how we could of watched them 5 times and felt that starting with 2 Centre Forwards was the right way to approach the game. Surely a 4-5-1 or a 5-4-1 would have given support to our full backs and made us more compact and difficult for them to play around us.
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Post by yorkroader on Jan 11, 2016 17:58:51 GMT
Both full backs were exposed due to the fact that we seemed to be playing a narrow diamond across the midfield. We played into Suttons hands as they are terrific in the wide areas. Not sure how we could of watched them 5 times and felt that starting with 2 Centre Forwards was the right way to approach the game. Surely a 4-5-1 or a 5-4-1 would have given support to our full backs and made us more compact and difficult for them to play around us. Goldsie you are a great manager after the result, pity you weren't so good when you had the job. |
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Post by cityslicker88 on Jan 11, 2016 19:02:59 GMT
Yorkroader, whilst I do not know who you are (and for the record I do not wish to know) I would like to Categorically state that you are 100% wrong about who I am if you are implying that I am Graham Golds our ex manager, now if you would like to enlighten all how you are 100% sure that you have your facts right then I'm sure we would all like to hear it.
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Post by scottishsaint on Jan 12, 2016 9:21:32 GMT
only on this board can you talk about tactics after a five nil loss then get accused of being a former manager haha
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Post by cityslicker88 on Jan 12, 2016 11:35:51 GMT
only on this board can you talk about tactics after a five nil loss then get accused of being a former manager haha I might add that firstly i was asked by this member if I was the chairman!! Silence speaks volumes, and as Mark Twain brilliantly said "It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so" It has left me with the feeling that yorkroader is a tad voyeuristic!! On leaving my house this morning I was half expecting to see a person sat in their car at the bottom of the road, looking to see if I am who I'm not!! All of this leads me to believe that some have misunderstood the concept of a fans forum. I thought it was common belief that forums are a place for people to discuss all manner of subjects about different given topics, be it a football club, pop band or any other forum, whilst retaining there anonymity should they so wish. A forum is not, as some may think, a game of cluedo where we try to guess who's who and shout from the rooftop when we think we have the person behind the Avatar!! This type of irresponsible behaviour could lead to all kinds of repercussions, not what I would imagine the administrators of this forum would want. Moving on half a century from Twain to one of my favourite authors George Orwell, I can't help but see the resemblances on here to his book Animal Farm, where all animals are equal but some are more equal than others. For the record I don't have any allegiances i just stand firmly by my word. If that is not the desired taste to some then so be it. |
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oldgeezer
Saints Youth Team Player
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Post by oldgeezer on Jan 12, 2016 11:56:14 GMT
You are 'Lobby Lud' and I claim my five pounds........
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Post by saintsdad on Jan 12, 2016 12:26:17 GMT
only on this board can you talk about tactics after a five nil loss then get accused of being a former manager haha I might add that firstly i was asked by this member if I was the chairman!! Silence speaks volumes, and as Mark Twain brilliantly said "It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so" It has left me with the feeling that yorkroader is a tad voyeuristic!! On leaving my house this morning I was half expecting a person sat in their car at the bottom of the road, looking to see if I am who I'm not!! All of this leads me to believe that some have misunderstood the concept of a fans forum. I thought it was common belief that forums are a place for people to discuss all manner of subjects about different given topics, be it a football club, pop band or any other forum, whilst retaining there anonymity should they so wish. A forum is not, as some may think, a game of cluedo where we try to guess who's who and shout from the rooftop when we think we have the person behind the Avatar!! This type of irresponsible behaviour could lead to all kinds of repercussions, not what I would imagine the administrators of this forum would want. Moving on half a century from Twain to one of my favourite authors George Orwell, I can't help but see the resemblances on here to his book Animal Farm, where all animals are equal but some are more equal than others. For the record I don't have any allegiances i just stand firmly by my word. If that is not the desired taste to some then so be it. Well said that man / woman |
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