fatboy
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Post by fatboy on Jan 15, 2016 17:22:20 GMT
On the bright side Truro may get kicked out the league by the end of season(no ground and have to find£100.000 by the final four weeks of this season) Poole may not get in because of the ground being a shithole.
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Post by Boomer on Jan 15, 2016 17:55:29 GMT
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jan 16, 2016 7:53:28 GMT
Adam Lee was meant be be manager before G&G were appointed, it was the worst kept secret at the club in the final days of David Howell
Wheeler may be a UEFA A grade coach, which is a decent achievement at his age but then so did Steve Castle and remember how crap he was but we'll give him a chance, the points tally over Christmas and NY was very disappointing though after the wins v Margate and Maidenhead
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Post by cityslicker88 on Jan 16, 2016 10:35:16 GMT
EFMTFTV---That was the rumour at the time regarding Adam Lee but I'm not 100% sure it's correct. But be sure some of the ideas,comments and actions that have passed my way regarding the top end at the club, would certainly raise a few eyebrows, possibly even make your hair curl!
With hindsight, I return to a previous suspicion of mine regarding the Jon Brady saga and our recent appointment as manager. What are people's thoughts now on the decision made at that time
It's obvious to me that one of the owners wants to run this club with people who he can fully control, I don't think Howells, Ridley, Gray&Golds, Eames fell into this category as they are all football people who's main goals are achieving success on the football field, hence we are now left with one mans puppets now in place. It's taken some time for him to make his bed, let's hope he doesn't have to lie in it!!
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gdog
Saints Trialist
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Post by gdog on Jan 16, 2016 11:01:21 GMT
Some interesting comments there and certainly food for thought
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Jan 16, 2016 19:45:42 GMT
CitySlicker88, it's tricky to know what to think because we have so little information to go on. So little real news actually comes out from the club. There are a few posters here who hint and suggest they know what's going on but there's also a general attitude of not revealing what they know, for whatever reason. So those of us who do not know what's going on inside the club have only what they can see and the odd snippet to go on.
So, from my point of view, what I've seen this season has been mostly a right load of old tripe and, as a result, I've been to fewer games. Partly that decision is because the results and performances have been so poor, partly it's because of the £15 entry fee. I know that lays me open to the accusation of being fair-weather, but I'd say I'm probably in the majority in that I turn up when there's something worth watching and am less inclined to when there isn't.
I think we can read between the lines and come to the conclusion that the owners do not want to throw good money after bad. No matter what level of football you operate at, if a club battling relegation appoints as manager an unproven coach from within rather than recruit experience and know-how from outside it suggests that the worst-case-scenario is being planned for.
On paper, the next eight games look very difficult and we need to win four of them to get above the line and give ourselves a good chance of staying up.
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Post by citycentresaint on Jan 17, 2016 20:02:53 GMT
The owners want 'Yes men' who when asked to jump, say 'how high?'
I have been to far less games because of the entry fee. £15 is expensive for the product being offered.
Division 6 football for a team looking down the barrel at Division 7.
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Post by casper on Jan 19, 2016 12:29:55 GMT
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gdog
Saints Trialist
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Post by gdog on Jan 19, 2016 13:25:43 GMT
so development squad is withdrawn
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ebsacfc
Saints Reserve Team Player
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Post by ebsacfc on Jan 19, 2016 17:32:08 GMT
Our situation is becoming more and more laughable.
How can withdrawing the development team from the league be beneficial? Surely every other team in that league is in the same position regarding games being called off!?
What happens to the players playing in the development team? Surely a small amount of games is better than none??
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 19, 2016 17:36:04 GMT
I really hope that we find an alternative league... soon
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ebsacfc
Saints Reserve Team Player
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Post by ebsacfc on Jan 19, 2016 18:03:54 GMT
That will have to wait until next season and by that time any decent youngsters would have found new clubs.
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 19, 2016 18:24:02 GMT
Especially if they are over 18 (under 18s squad I understand stays in the Herts U18s league)
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Post by minty on Jan 19, 2016 20:39:33 GMT
I had a chat with one of the development team players a couple of months ago.
He told me that the players thought they weren't getting anything out of playing in that league as it was essentially pub football where there was more kicking of the players than the ball.
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Post by cityslicker88 on Jan 19, 2016 22:31:50 GMT
Just read the article in the Review newspaper and all I can say is "what a load of bunkum". I.E. The reasons for pulling the development squad out of the league is due to the amount of games called off by opposition. Well they kicked off the season on the same day as the 1st team on 8th of August and their last game was on the 19th of December, that is 20 Saturday's by my reconing. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to look at their fixtures on the club website. This link from the FA website is interesting reading!! full-time.thefa.com/DisplayTeam.do?teamID=593663260&divisionseason=591324903They have played 18 league games, 2 league challenge trophy, 1 Herts intermediate and a Division 2 cup, In total I make that 22 games in 20 weeks!!! I notice they didn't play on the 26th of Dec (Boxing Day) and the 2nd of January the day after new year, this would be because the league had not issued fixtures for this period, on the 9th of Jan they were due to play at home to Afc Hillgate, but the game at CLARENCE PARK was postponed due to a waterlogged pitch. Looking at the website where are these postponements of games?? It's laughable that people at our club think we fans must be Imbeciles, but for me this statement has made a mockery of the club. |
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Post by bob666 on Jan 20, 2016 1:33:53 GMT
I had a chat with one of the development team players a couple of months ago. He told me that the players thought they weren't getting anything out of playing in that league as it was essentially pub football where there was more kicking of the players than the ball. But we only mid-table so pub league or not it would appear to be about the right standard for our development squad. Any other league the squad could compete in is likely to have many of the same limitations. As for it being rough have there been many injuries? If we unhappy with the league a more constructive approach would be to try and actually win it and earn the right to play in a better league. More significantly pulling out of a league mid-season (in anything less than extraordinary circumstances) shows a lack of respect for other teams in the division and is bad for the image of the club. I assume its a cost cutting measure but how much the development team actually cost? It cannot be that much. |
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jan 20, 2016 6:04:21 GMT
Is there such a thing as a good reserve league?
I would have through the SML was as good a place than any considering you wouldn't be able to get one into the Ryman or Southern League
Capital League always seemed to never play many games, didn't we have a Suburbian league or something years ago?
Best solution IMO would be a reserve league feat the 22 teams from this divison only so that everyone is playing against a similar standard of player and would be more competitive vs fringe and youth players from teams the same level
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Post by saintstrue on Jan 20, 2016 11:58:29 GMT
Stop to believe everything from paper please!!! Not just the 22 games in 20 weeks but also the fact that in every low league over December - January you have many games called off show how much ridiculous are this words from Lawrence. After Swales and his coach resigned from the Club he have basically just told all of the 21's that they are no longer needed and to go and find a new club! That's how much the club really care about the young players and their development. Nice words on paper just to get more credit from council! |
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Post by minty on Jan 20, 2016 13:01:33 GMT
Should make for an interesting fan's forum next week.
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oldgeezer
Saints Youth Team Player
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Post by oldgeezer on Jan 20, 2016 14:25:01 GMT
Bottom line is money.
I'm happy to pour my admission money into the pot, but not sure I'd pay the money Levy and McGowan must be paying in every week.
If I win the lottery...........
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bajie
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Post by bajie on Jan 20, 2016 14:26:57 GMT
The level the Development Squad were playing at would have taught them how to handle the physical side of the game.
Had they been coached better in how to play football, retain possession and pass to teammates, they would have cleaned that league up.
Younger, fitter and for the most part better technically.
This sadly did not happen.
Watching the gulf in difference in coaching sessions between the first team and the reserves was stunning.
Wheeler and Boyce are good coaches. From what I saw they have the respect of the team. I believe they will keep the team up. It will be a roller-coaster but they will do it.
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Post by casper on Jan 20, 2016 19:23:06 GMT
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Post by cityslicker88 on Jan 20, 2016 20:22:16 GMT
Bob666 - I don't believe this is about pitches, style of football, postponements or the like. If the team were top of the league or challenging for it do you think that they would be pulling them out? The answer is no, the powers that be at our club feel that without promotion or silverware available that running this squad is an expense that they can now do without. (Someone on the gate, someone working the bar, training facilities, refreshments after the game, match-day officials).
I note the headline in the Herts Advertiser above. Surely the fact that the side will be no longer be playing together in a league and some of these lads are seeking football elsewhere without the help of the club, tells me and these players that the side has most certainly been scrapped!
Moving on to the statement that the decision to make Harry Wheeler permanent manager was a "unanimous team decision" Who exactly is in this team? The owner who never attends matches? The chairman who was not involved with the interview process or appointment of the next manager? I stick by what I have expressed previously that this was a solitary decision.
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Post by PaperSaint on Jan 20, 2016 21:45:34 GMT
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Post by casper on Jan 21, 2016 9:28:07 GMT
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