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Post by PaperSaint on Feb 4, 2016 10:18:14 GMT
There are some people on this forum that aren't worth a response - will always criticise those that aim to do something positive or hold a different opinion [/quote I'm pretty sure Napoleon was positive when he invaded Russia. (That went well) Doing something positive - ie Race Night - is a bit different from feeling this seasons campaign has been positive (which it hasn't been)
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gdog
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Post by gdog on Feb 4, 2016 12:39:32 GMT
in all walks of like people are always quick to complain / criticise and slow to praise
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Post by Canary Saint on Feb 4, 2016 13:28:15 GMT
Doing something positive - ie Race Night - is a bit different from feeling this seasons campaign has been positive (which it hasn't been) AppySaint, I think that all you do for the club is very admirable and you of course are entitled to your opinion. However I do not see the connection between the undoubted hard work of the "foot soldiers" and the doubts of some re the "big picture".
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Post by PaperSaint on Feb 4, 2016 13:44:12 GMT
Thanks. My opinion re the big picture is simply that I share the view that we need a new ground if we want to compete in the National Leagues. I accept that some aren't interested overly in that but I am keen for the club to perform at that level - unfortunately it's not an easy path and comes with some "costs". But ultimately that's what I want to aspire to.
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fatboy
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Post by fatboy on Feb 4, 2016 15:55:00 GMT
There is no way the Railway will not get that land at Radlett/ St Albans airfield, so give up on that idea. The railways already own the land next to the railway between the main line and the airfield at napsbury where the old signal box was. The council are just trying not to look bad while knowing they have no chance against the Railways. I thought in todays thinking people want traffic off the road and back on to the national railways think of the benefits and jobs a big yard would bring to the Town Now back to the Truro game.
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Post by minty on Feb 4, 2016 21:23:45 GMT
I think the people of St. Albans are probably more concerned about how much the rail freight yard will impact on their property value and their commute to London than how many jobs it will create.
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Post by casper on Feb 4, 2016 21:29:19 GMT
I think the people of St. Albans are probably more concerned about how much the rail freight yard will impact on their property value and their commute to London than how many jobs it will create. Plus the traffic generated by thousands of lorries collecting and dropping off their loads at the depot.
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Post by asaintreborn on Feb 5, 2016 0:38:32 GMT
I'm not even going to speak about the stadium vs non stadium debate straight away. I am going to talk about some of the comments I have heard of late. Ive seen/heard comments on twitter, the fans forum on here such. "If you want to go up the leagues why not improve team performance on the pitch, make it attractive and this will improve attendances" you might think what the issue here this is all great stuff right? Then I here this and this is what hacks me right off. "By investing more money in the squad and you clearly have it after all the spending you have done this week". It's so easy to spend all the owners money sitting in your chairs as a fan without consequence. Lawrence and John decide the budget and what they want to put in. Contrary to belief their not a bottomless pit of money. They have their children's futures to plan for, they donate money to more important causes in life than St.Albans City Fc etc and what they're saying is if you want to aim higher we need to make St.Albans City Fc more sustainable to increase the playing budget. To progress we will need to be sustainable. Now there vision is a new stadium. 4g Pitch could be another option. There are ideas we could all come up with but likely hood is they will be rejected as per the restriction of Clarence park. One being you cannot build something for commercial profit. Aka end game. I truely believe 10 years ago our financials meant we were a conference south team. That was our Base line. If you ask me now the games changed. I'd say our level in order to be sustainable at CP Is probably 8th tier of English football and we are currently 6th tier. Horrifying I know! I hate that I just admitted that. What do I mean by the games changed? More and more clubs are cottening onto the fact the games changed. The longer we leave it to react the more we will fall behind. Yes you may have a sugar daddy like Margate who has thrown in access of 2 million at the club. However, most now realise in order to support the budget external revenue is needed. Some build fancy new stadiums to bring in the revenue Stevenage, Forest Green and Maidstone etc and some use clever idea to make the best use of what they got such as Oxford City. Who dressed up two porter cabins to create extra space to make revenue. Even something like that the York roaders would shut down as you can't build something for commercial profit. Basically it all comes round to a few questions. What's your aspirations for St.Albans City Fc? If it's higher than the 8th tier then CP is not an option. Are you for or against the new stadium? People need to stop waving the owners money around like it's there own. (That's not aimed at everybody just a select few) Dont get stuck in the past and be the last to react. Finally the futures bright we are going to win 5-0 tomorrow
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Post by asaintreborn on Feb 5, 2016 1:09:22 GMT
Apologies for the bad spelling, punctuation in advance and predictive txt as I wrote this on my phone. Can't wait for the reply "they shouldn't have bought a football club if they didn't want to lose money". *Palm slap*
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Post by Canary Saint on Feb 5, 2016 7:18:14 GMT
Basically it all comes round to a few questions. What's your aspirations for St.Albans City Fc? If it's higher than the 8th tier then CP is not an option. Are you for or against the new stadium? quote] Without significant investment. I think operating at the same level as Hitchin (which is 7 or 8 while flirting with 6) is a realistic option and a point at which the Saints have existed for many seasons in the past. Let's face it the last two successful periods for the club were based on "dodgy money" which very nearly caused the club to cease to exist. I personally believe a new stadium would not be a guarantee of future success. At the of the day I just want the club to survive. Sorry for the lack of ambition.
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Post by PaperSaint on Feb 5, 2016 8:25:17 GMT
Let's face it the last two successful periouds for the club were based on "dodgy money" which very nearly caused the club to cease to exist. I personally believe a new stadium would not be a guarantee of future success. At the of the day I just want the club to survive. Sorry for the lack of ambition. Agree. I certainly don't want to see success on the back of money used forshort term success and personal ego boosting. New stadium doesn't guarantee success but is a good platform for success when it has associated facilities that generate the required funding.
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Post by cityslicker88 on Feb 5, 2016 9:38:24 GMT
I'm not buying this scare mongering tactics that if we stand on our own two feet we are step 8 material
Our club would hold its own self sufficiently at step 7, take into consideration that we have been at the wrong end of the league table all season, we currently have an average gate of 652, tenth in the National South.
I believe if we drop this season, our gates will be at the top end of the league below, now if that gets us relegation from this league where the league average gate is under 300 with 7 teams not averaging 175, then you would have to question the management of the team.
I accept that playing budget is a big factor in non league football these days. I'm not asking for the owners to dip further into their own pockets to help us mantain status in this league, but it does give me reason to question again:- Are the owners doing there utmost to bring in further investment to our club? Are they sharing their time adequately between the new ground issues, and finding a couple of individuals that are willing to put in a few quid for say a seat on our anonymous board.
Playing budget wise we seem to be stuck between a rock and a hard place, the budget was enough to get us promoted (although I believe it was less than Chesham, Hemel, Cambridge, Poole and St.Neots) but it looks like it is a struggle to keep us in this division.
Recruit Recruit Recruit!!
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Post by Hatboy on Feb 6, 2016 15:43:13 GMT
As said before you might be right with one but Levy is not driven by profit on this. I might not agree with some of the decisions he takes but if you talk to him you will see it is about building a club for the future. A new stadium is a long term game - even with permissions etc in place, it's 5-10 years and so thats a lot of money being put in to keep the club running in the interim - as well as the risk of not even getting a stadium. Really folding the developement side and only wanting to build a new stadium with a massive house building contract I think long term he is driven by money.
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