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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 14:41:59 GMT
Line up this afternoon -
McNamara, James, Partington, Bowry (c), Brown, Rasulo, Hoddle, Smith, Fage, Weiss, Akanbi.
Subs -
Bentley, Blackman, Carlyle, Gauthier, Georgiou, Jeffers, Morrall.
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 15:09:09 GMT
Bishop's Stortford 0 Saints 1
Fage 8
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 15:46:16 GMT
Bishop's Stortford 1 Saints 1
Alemanji 43
Virtually Bishop's Stortford's only effort on goal in the whole half.
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 15:49:55 GMT
HT Bishop's Stortford 1 Saints 1
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 16:08:59 GMT
Jeffers and Carlyle on for Weiss and Brown 46 mins.
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 16:09:54 GMT
Bishop's Stortford 2 Saints 1
Alemanji 47
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Post by Canary Saint on Nov 18, 2023 16:22:34 GMT
BS 3 Saints 1
Maybe skip the half time talk in future ?
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Post by lagerman on Nov 18, 2023 16:24:01 GMT
Same old, same old, by the sounds of it ?
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 16:24:09 GMT
Bishop's Stortford 3 Saints 1
Olufemi 60
After Olufemi's original penalty saved by McNamara, following a clumsy challenge by Akanbi in the box.
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 16:39:10 GMT
Morrall on for Akanbi 72 mins.
Too little too late after being totally in control for the first 43 mins. Crazy.
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Post by lagerman on Nov 18, 2023 16:49:07 GMT
BS 3 Saints 1 Maybe skip the half time talk in future ? How effective can you expect Noble to be with his team talks ? Has he fully got the dressing room 100% ? He's inexperienced as a manager, so I'd say the jury's out on that one
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Post by sideshowbob on Nov 18, 2023 17:03:37 GMT
There is only one man responsible for this rubbish! And its Dave noble, no one else.
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Post by Boomer on Nov 18, 2023 17:06:43 GMT
FT Bishop's Stortford (1) 3 Saints(1) 1
Coasting up their penalty, with numerous chances to be at least 3 up before the 43rd minute. We take a player off in the 72nd minute, who shouldn't be on the field in the first place. I just can't get my head around it.
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Post by lagerman on Nov 18, 2023 17:21:34 GMT
FT Bishop's Stortford (1) 3 Saints(1) 1 Coasting up their penalty, with numerous chances to be at least 3 up before the 43rd minute. We take a player off in the 72nd minute, who shouldn't be on the field in the first place. I just can't get my head around it. Inexperienced managerial decisions by an inexperienced manager
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Post by citycentresaint on Nov 18, 2023 17:31:03 GMT
Feels like Noble's time is up.
We are going to be dragged into a relegation dogfight with a bunch of pub teams at this rate.
I cannot see Noble being sacked, he is the bargain bucket option.
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Post by lagerman on Nov 18, 2023 17:51:11 GMT
Feels like Noble's time is up. We are going to be dragged into a relegation dogfight with a bunch of pub teams at this rate. I cannot see Noble being sacked, he is the bargain bucket option. He won't be sacked as he'll always, l think, understand the Clubs finances, what they can and can't do. But above and beyond that, we don't know what Nobles ambitions are and what he thinks he is achieving. Throw that into the equation and we'll see whether Noble stays or not, he'll only go l think, if we continue in a bad run, possibly being relegated, and if he becomes disillusioned with the situation at St Albans
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Post by minty on Nov 18, 2023 18:01:30 GMT
Out of the FA Cup and Trophy early. Looking like all that is to play for is keeping our NLS status. Nobby is clearly out of his depth at this level, however i feel not everything is down to him. Stepping down and getting a job at a division or two lower club may make him a better manager long term. There are many bigger, well funded clubs in our division and experience counts.
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Post by sideshowbob on Nov 18, 2023 18:11:12 GMT
I don't think the owners have any expectations, other than staying in this division. None of the sides are pub teams that's a daft comment. Without knowing what the budgets are for this league its difficult to say whether we are able to compete properly. But crowds will drop drastically watching what is being served up. So craft beer chicken and burgers won't compensate for poor football.
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Post by cityfan on Nov 18, 2023 19:45:35 GMT
A really poor afternoon against what I thought was the weakest side we’ve played all season. We were pretty comfortable first half although we as usual moved the ball far too slowly at times. Saying that we could have been 3-0 had we taken our chances, until we gifted an equaliser right on the stroke of half time.
The second half was abysmal and we gifted Stortford 2 more goals without creating a worthwhile effort on goal ourselves.
Team selection, tactics & changes over the past few weeks strike me as a manager who just doesn’t know what to do. It’s all pretty desperate stuff, players in unfamiliar positions, certain favourites seemingly undroppable however badly they play.
The games come quick and fast with Tuesday night and there’s no sense of things turning around.
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Post by casper on Nov 18, 2023 20:01:59 GMT
Nobby post match interview
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Post by sideshowbob on Nov 18, 2023 20:44:28 GMT
I won't bother with the interview same old boring rhetoric. Rather pointless.
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Post by bob666 on Nov 18, 2023 21:59:17 GMT
I get the point that the owners are probably happy with midtable, I also get the point that Noble does not have a promotion budget and that we must allign our expections with the budget. However, that is 4 defeats on the bounce. If we take this form into the league we could quicky find ourselves in real danger of going down- we are 16th, only 2 sides have lost more games than us and most teams below have games in hand. The problem is once we let one goal in, even if we not actually losing, we might as well go home. We have no self belief at all. Listening to Noble's interviews he sounds like he is completely beaten. The only thing he could motivate anyone to do is book a flight to dignitas. I actually think that sacking him might be the best thing for his own wellbeing. Even if we cannot get a top manager in we just need to get in someone with a bit of poistivity. Although not a great side I do believe that with proper encouragement etc we should be able to achieve a midtable finish. If the personal relationships are not broken we could do worse than bring Allison back as a stopgap before looking for a longterm option at the end of the season.
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Post by jeffry on Nov 18, 2023 22:08:50 GMT
That is a shocking / cringeworthy and awkward interview on all fronts . How can not know his own squad to the point where he asks the interviewer who else is still out injured…
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Post by minty on Nov 18, 2023 22:16:43 GMT
I get the point that the owners are probably happy with midtable, I also get the point that Noble does not have a promotion budget and that we must allign our expections with the budget. However, that is 4 defeats on the bounce. If we take this form into the league we could quicky find ourselves in real danger of going down- we are 16th, only 2 sides have lost more games than us and most teams below have games in hand. The problem is once we let one goal in, even if we not actually losing, we might as well go home. We have no self belief at all. Listening to Noble's interviews he sounds like he is completely beaten. The only thing he could motivate anyone to do is book a flight to dignitas. I actually think that sacking him might be the best thing for his own wellbeing. Even if we cannot get a top manager in we just need to get in someone with a bit of poistivity. Although not a great side I do believe that with proper encouragement etc we should be able to achieve a midtable finish. If the personal relationships are not broken we could do worse than bring Allison back as a stopgap before looking for a longterm option at the end of the season. No way would Ian Allinson come back. Neil Metcalfe on the platform formerly known as Twitter was suggesting Darren Sarll would be a good fit should Nobby leave.
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Post by bob666 on Nov 18, 2023 22:29:58 GMT
I get the point that the owners are probably happy with midtable, I also get the point that Noble does not have a promotion budget and that we must allign our expections with the budget. However, that is 4 defeats on the bounce. If we take this form into the league we could quicky find ourselves in real danger of going down- we are 16th, only 2 sides have lost more games than us and most teams below have games in hand. The problem is once we let one goal in, even if we not actually losing, we might as well go home. We have no self belief at all. Listening to Noble's interviews he sounds like he is completely beaten. The only thing he could motivate anyone to do is book a flight to dignitas. I actually think that sacking him might be the best thing for his own wellbeing. Even if we cannot get a top manager in we just need to get in someone with a bit of poistivity. Although not a great side I do believe that with proper encouragement etc we should be able to achieve a midtable finish. If the personal relationships are not broken we could do worse than bring Allison back as a stopgap before looking for a longterm option at the end of the season. No way would Ian Allinson come back. Neil Metcalfe on the platform formerly known as Twitter was suggesting Darren Sarll would be a good fit should Nobby leave. I am sure your right I suppose my argument is that there is a case for getting in someone, prehaps an older man?, to keep things ticking over and get us to midtable so we can make a proper considered choice re: longterm options in the summer
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Post by citycentresaint on Nov 19, 2023 0:03:48 GMT
No way would Ian Allinson come back. Neil Metcalfe on the platform formerly known as Twitter was suggesting Darren Sarll would be a good fit should Nobby leave. I am sure your right I suppose my argument is that there is a case for getting in someone, prehaps an older man?, to keep things ticking over and get us to midtable so we can make a proper considered choice re: longterm options in the summer IA would be a great appointment, but he was badly treated before he left. The owners at that time were transfixed by Austin. Noble is a good kid, but needs to learn his trade at a lower level. He seems well out of his depth.
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Post by lagerman on Nov 19, 2023 10:35:53 GMT
Yeah, l can only really just agree with what's been said about Nobby, he's come across as a bit lost and broken again, and you just can't help feeling sorry for the man, he's had a lot of injuries and he just can't seem to be able to manage the team to get the results. As l still just can't see the owners sacking him unless, maybe, we go down, cos they are concentrating on off the field sustainability and leaving the on the field matters to Nobby. Its up to Nobby himself, he has to do what he feels is right, both personally and professionally, if we continue on a bad run and he can't turn it around, and the trouble is, it's hard, sometimes, to get out of a bad run, too, it's a confidence thing, the trouble is, Nobby just doesn't come across in the interviews as the man able to do that, He's only young thou, and inexperienced, but if he does leave, if he ends up feeling that he can't turn us around, I'm sure there is a continued career for him, managing, perhaps re-starting at a lower level, I'm sure he'll take all this as a learning curve and he'll know as we all do, that he didn't do too badly last season. And of course its not all Nobbys fault, sure he has to get us results, but if the players are not listening, not doing their jobs properly etc then they have a lot to answer for. For now, we can only hope that, unless the squad is strengthened sufficiently, we get back our injured players as soon as possible and just try to be lucky with injuries and suspensions, we need sustained confident continuity. COYS
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Post by citycentresaint on Nov 19, 2023 13:49:14 GMT
Yeah, l can only really just agree with what's been said about Nobby, he's come across as a bit lost and broken again, and you just can't help feeling sorry for the man, he's had a lot of injuries and he just can't seem to be able to manage the team to get the results. As l still just can't see the owners sacking him unless, maybe, we go down, cos they are concentrating on off the field sustainability and leaving the on the field matters to Nobby. Its up to Nobby himself, he has to do what he feels is right, both personally and professionally, if we continue on a bad run and he can't turn it around, and the trouble is, it's hard, sometimes, to get out of a bad run, too, it's a confidence thing, the trouble is, Nobby just doesn't come across in the interviews as the man able to do that, He's only young thou, and inexperienced, but if he does leave, if he ends up feeling that he can't turn us around, I'm sure there is a continued career for him, managing, perhaps re-starting at a lower level, I'm sure he'll take all this as a learning curve and he'll know as we all do, that he didn't do too badly last season. And of course its not all Nobbys fault, sure he has to get us results, but if the players are not listening, not doing their jobs properly etc then they have a lot to answer for. For now, we can only hope that, unless the squad is strengthened sufficiently, we get back our injured players as soon as possible and just try to be lucky with injuries and suspensions, we need sustained confident continuity. COYS Well said fella. I think Noble has made a rod for his own back with his treatment of Jeffers. Akanbi as expected has been poor. The Tonbridge fans were happy to see him go, which speaks volumes. Lets hope we start Jeffers on Tuesday, and pick up 3 points.
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Post by stalbanandy on Nov 19, 2023 17:29:30 GMT
Absolute joke interviews by the manager after games! The bollox he says about not playing Jeffers and Weiss up front is beyond a joke!! I have supported the club since 1971 (when I was 7) and I have NEVER been so frustrated!! 2 wins out of 10!! Something is badly wrong David?. I have come to expect us to lose each game now with the current playing squad/ability/commitment and it is a bonus when we win! Is that where we are??
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Post by sideshowbob on Nov 19, 2023 17:48:18 GMT
Although noble doesn't have the experience as a manager, the signings he has made have been very poor. Half the side look like lower division players, mixed in with some decent ones. Defensively we are awful, and we make to many unforced errors, misplaced passes, and totally lacking in confidence and we are unable to hold on to a lead. Tonbridge the best example. I'm not sure what the answer is other than a change of personnel.
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