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Post by middxsaint on Apr 25, 2023 9:50:04 GMT
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Yeovil Town, Maidstone United and most likely Torquay United. Maidenhead United and York City are not mathematically safe yet. Bishop's Stortford, Weston Super Mare and two others : Canvey Island/Aveley, Hornchurch/Cray Wanderers, Bracknell Town/Chesham United, Truro City/Poole Town.
Leaving
Ebbsfleet United, Hungerford Town, Weymouth and probably Concord Rangers and Cheshunt although Dulwich Hamlet and Dover are not safe yet. If 3 are relegated to the South from the National division, Oxford City are the most likely to be put in the North.
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Post by middxsaint on Apr 25, 2023 21:51:44 GMT
Confirmed in the South playoffs are : Dartford, Oxford City, Chelmsford City, Worthing and Braintree. We will also be in the playoffs unless we lose to Farnborough on Saturday and Havant & Waterlooville win both their games at Concord Rangers on Thursday night and at home to Welling United on Saturday. We currently have a goal difference 7 better than Havant & Waterlooville. The last time Havant & Waterlooville won was on the 18th February. We are currently 7th but with a win over Farnborough, could end up as high as 5th if Hemel Hempstead win at Worthing and Slough Town beat Braintree Town at the weekend. This would start us with a home game against Worthing in the playoffs. With a 6th or 7th final position, we would be away to any one of Oxford City, Chelmsford City, Worthing or Braintree in our first playoff game.
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Post by lagerman on Apr 25, 2023 22:03:23 GMT
Confirmed in the South playoffs are : Dartford, Oxford City, Chelmsford City, Worthing and Braintree. We will also be in the playoffs unless we lose to Farnborough on Saturday and Havant & Waterlooville win both their games at Concord Rangers on Thursday night and at home to Welling United on Saturday. We currently have a goal difference 7 better than Havant & Waterlooville. We are currently 7th but with a win over Farnborough, could end up as high as 5th if Hemel Hempstead win at Worthing and Slough Town beat Braintree Town at the weekend. Havant have still got to swing that goal difference in their favour to deny us a play off place They could win their 2 games, but say just 1-0 each for example, and we could lose 0-1 for example, and still Qualify for the play offs on goal difference. Of course now Farnboro's result tonite is in and they are out of it now, losing at home to Tonbridge tonite.
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Post by middxsaint on Apr 26, 2023 21:28:48 GMT
All four step 4 playoff semi finals went to extra time. Winners were Southern League : Bracknell Town (1-0) & Truro City (1-1, 4-1 pens) Isthmian League : Hornchurch (3-3, 4-2 pens) & Aveley (0-0, 4-2 pens)
Hanworth Villa (including Sam Merson & Tom Bender) won 2-1 at Marlow to reach the Southern League South Central final. They now play Walton & Hersham away on Sunday in the final - 3pm.
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Post by supersonic on Apr 27, 2023 11:43:58 GMT
Yeovil supporters are a nightmare at home and away. Avoid.
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Post by boojiboy on Apr 27, 2023 21:06:10 GMT
Havant won 4-3 at Concord tonight meaning qualification for the playoffs goes to the last Saturday.
Concord were winning for much of the game until Havant equalised in the 84th minute. Concord threw everything at Havant because they needed a win to avoid relegation and Havant scored the winner in the 94th minute after a 5 against 1 break!
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Post by sideshowbob on Apr 27, 2023 21:32:33 GMT
Would goal difference come into the equation? As ours is better than havant.
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Post by sideshowbob on Apr 27, 2023 21:34:11 GMT
Although neither side is anywhere near good enough for promotion.
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Post by lagerman on Apr 27, 2023 21:45:55 GMT
Havant won 4-3 at Concord tonight meaning qualification for the playoffs goes to the last Saturday. Concord were winning for much of the game until Havant equalised in the 84th minute. Concord threw everything at Havant because they needed a win to avoid relegation and Havant scored the winner in the 94th minute after a 5 against 1 break! I saw that result but l didn't know the details. I just hope on Saturday that Nobby doesn't set us up to defend, to get the point we need to make the Play Offs and our home record has been inferior to our away record anyway, we've all seen what we've been like down at the Park at times. If we do that, we could get done over on Ssturday. The players and the management staff can't worry about what's going on, on Saturday, down at Havant, they've simply just got to concentrate on getting the job done vs Farnborough. Havant will be going gung ho vs Welling, we saw what happened a couple of weeks ago when we played Welling, after the first goal we broke them down twice more and won 3 nil and its a dead rubber for Welling on Saturday, it could be a damage limitation job for them on Saturday. Of course l suppose you could say it's a dead rubber for Farnborough too, but l think they are a better side than Welling
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Post by EFMTFTV on Apr 28, 2023 11:11:51 GMT
Would goal difference come into the equation? As ours is better than havant. Yes, they need to overturn 6 goals, so if we lost 2-0 and they won 4-0, for example, they'd overtake us, they also have a better goals scored, which i assume is the next thing they count, rather than H2H
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Post by middxsaint on Apr 29, 2023 18:22:57 GMT
Coming down : Maidstone United, Yeovil Town and Torquay United.
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Post by jj123 on May 1, 2023 16:17:56 GMT
Truro & Aveley have been promoted.
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Post by middxsaint on May 4, 2023 8:04:42 GMT
Could be just Maidstone United an Yeovil Town relegated if Southend United are wound up on the 17th May.
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Post by minty on May 4, 2023 8:43:51 GMT
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Post by middxsaint on May 14, 2023 10:42:04 GMT
Looks like Yeovil Town are OK now following a takeover. www.bbc.com/sport/football/65569497Looks like if we win today, Oxford City will go into National North. If they win, Bishop's Stortford go North. However if Southend United fold, it could be that Torquay United get a reprieve. Dulwich Hamlet would still get relegated as Kettering Town got more points in the North.
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Post by hotsaint on May 15, 2023 11:05:00 GMT
Bishop Stortford in the National North file:///C:/Users/User/Downloads/nls-1-to-4-club-allocations-2023-24.pdf
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Post by minty on May 15, 2023 11:27:22 GMT
Bishop Stortford in the National North file:///C:/Users/User/Downloads/nls-1-to-4-club-allocations-2023-24.pdf Have to feel sorry for Stortford after winning what is a southern based league this year. Subject to appeals of course. I don't know what else the FA could do other than have a NLS season of 25 clubs next season.
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Post by saint68 on May 15, 2023 12:17:46 GMT
I feel sorry for Stortford, but I’m just glad it wasn’t us. I was looking forward to another easy journey for the away game though - with half a dozen trips to the West Country next season there’ll be a lot of mileage for those of our fans who don’t miss a match.
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Post by lagerman on May 15, 2023 14:42:31 GMT
I feel sorry for Stortford, but I’m just glad it wasn’t us. I was looking forward to another easy journey for the away game though - with half a dozen trips to the West Country next season there’ll be a lot of mileage for those of our fans who don’t miss a match. Well, it wasn't going to affect me personally as, since covid started and since football restarted after the first lockdown, l got into the habit of going to local football when we were playing away, but l feel for everybody that it will affect at Stortford, as indeed l would've for everybody at our Club if it had"ve been us transferred to NLN
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Post by middxsaint on May 16, 2023 7:47:29 GMT
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Post by lagerman on May 16, 2023 8:08:56 GMT
Very interesting, thankyou for sharing. I don't know about anybody else, but l always look forward to seeing it all in the Non League Paper each time, where they show all the proposed Leagues for each next season, colour-coded to show all the promoted, relegated, and laterally-moved teams as well as all the "staying put" teams
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Post by COYS on May 16, 2023 8:30:24 GMT
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Post by lagerman on May 16, 2023 10:36:00 GMT
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Post by lagerman on May 16, 2023 11:00:41 GMT
I daresay its not as easy as some people might think, allocating Clubs into their leagues, each Season. Hence the small amount of lateral movement, the sideways moves. But as much as it may cause upheaval to those Clubs affected by lateral movement, at least it must be better in these Pyramid days, nowadays, than it was in the pre-Pyramid days
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Post by saintsdad on May 18, 2023 16:00:15 GMT
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Post by lagerman on May 18, 2023 22:14:47 GMT
Let's hope their appeal is knocked back. But that said, I would've thought that Stortford was a little bit further north than us anyway ?
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Post by saint68 on May 19, 2023 7:20:46 GMT
My worry is that Stortford have had to play in National North for a couple of seasons before. If they use that argument the League may feel it would be “fairer” to make someone else have the problem. Mind you, I would have thought that would have been part of the decision making process in the first place.
I just hope it’s sorted out quickly. It’s likely to impact on who signs or re-signs for us next season.
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Post by middxsaint on May 19, 2023 7:59:17 GMT
With Aldershot, Barnet, Boreham Wood, Bromley, Dagenham & R, Dorking W, Eastleigh, Ebbsfleet, Maidenhead Utd, Southend Utd, Wealdstone & Woking all further south than us, we have to hope no more than two get relegated in 2024.
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Post by lagerman on May 19, 2023 8:38:44 GMT
I've just been reading an article on newsfeed on my mobile about a few Clubs (Stortford included) that are appealing their allocations. Althou the vast majority of Clubs will always be happy in the division that they are, they'll always be a small number of geographical anomalies and l can't see what the answer is to keep everyone happy
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Post by COYS on May 19, 2023 9:36:17 GMT
I've just been reading an article on newsfeed on my mobile about a few Clubs (Stortford included) that are appealing their allocations. Althou the vast majority of Clubs will always be happy in the division that they are, they'll always be a small number of geographical anomalies and l can't see what the answer is to keep everyone happy No, nor can I. It’s difficult and someone is always going to get a raw deal with the number of clubs around london skewing things geographically. The main thing that doesn’t sit right though is how it can act almost as a deterrent to getting promotion. In future, will clubs around our area in the league below think twice about going for the title for fear of the clubs future long term? That doesn’t seem right especially as these clubs are maybe less set up for distance travel, perhaps there should be a season or two’s grace for teams coming up? Maybe by reverse, the sides getting relegated - who are more likely to be used to distance travel - should be considered further for being put in the “wrong” league. That said, we know that coming down from the National League doesn’t mean you’re more financially secure…
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