albanian
Saints Reserve Team Player
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Post by albanian on Sept 30, 2024 10:27:06 GMT
Don't see how there's any correlation between our terrible start to the season and the food and drink stalls.
Go back a couple of months and we were all quite excited about the summer signings. We're not being held back by a lack of playing budget, but the balance of the squad seems to be way off. I don't know who's most responsible for that, but presumably Noble, Wheeler and the owners all bear some responsibility.
It's hard to see how Noble comes back from this. Other managers have been sacked for far less this season. If he's still manager on Saturday then surely he's gone if we don't win. There's always excuses for not winning games, but that kind of mentality will end in relegation.
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Post by citycentresaint on Sept 30, 2024 13:03:41 GMT
Noble should have fallen on his sword by now.
With him in charge, we will be playing pub teams in the Southern League next season.
Get IA back and make our club great again.
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Post by BOBbanjax on Sept 30, 2024 13:52:56 GMT
Not seen many suggestions of who could replace Noble, if we appoint an interim from within the club we will have a similar results. This needs a huge shake up
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 30, 2024 14:00:36 GMT
I'm sure there would lots of applicants for the job.not certain how good some would be but they couldn't do any worse than noble.
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Post by jj123 on Sept 30, 2024 15:24:12 GMT
Noble should have fallen on his sword by now. With him in charge, we will be playing pub teams in the Southern League next season. Get IA back and make our club great again. IA wont wont to come anywhere near the club with the 2 jokers in charger The issue is the owners have absolutely zero knowledge of the non league game and will have no contacts |
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Post by lagerman on Sept 30, 2024 15:46:35 GMT
Noble should have fallen on his sword by now. With him in charge, we will be playing pub teams in the Southern League next season. Get IA back and make our club great again. IA wont wont to come anywhere near the club with the 2 jokers in charger The issue is the owners have absolutely zero knowledge of the non league game and will have no contacts No, that's absolutely right, and in their efforts to try to sustain the Club the best they can, it's hard to see any sort of established, decent manager from "outside", getting the job should Noble walk or get sacked. It's bound to be another cheap, easy, appointment, Quite likely to be another appointment from "within" if or when the time comes. It makes you wonder who has applied for the job over the last few appointments and who have been unsuccessful, l imagine we'll never know that. I know IA wasn't everybody's cup of tea, but he was more experienced than Noble, and someone l thought who could command respect, but it's the sort of team manager we need, an experienced, older one than Noble |
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Post by citycentresaint on Sept 30, 2024 20:29:13 GMT
Noble was always the bargain bucket option.
With the owners fixation on chicken wings, it isn't surprising he is the option they went for.
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Post by saintsman2000 on Sept 30, 2024 20:53:39 GMT
Noble was always the bargain bucket option. With the owners fixation on chicken wings, it isn't surprising he is the option they went for. I have to say I think every fan on here wanted Noble appointed first time round. Also considering how it took 5/6 weeks to appoint him as permanent after IA left does show that the owners were considering alternative options |
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Post by jj123 on Sept 30, 2024 21:30:27 GMT
Noble was always the bargain bucket option. With the owners fixation on chicken wings, it isn't surprising he is the option they went for. I have to say I think every fan on here wanted Noble appointed first time round. Also considering how it took 5/6 weeks to appoint him as permanent after IA left does show that the owners were considering alternative options Do you want Noble to stay? |
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Post by saintsdad on Oct 1, 2024 0:44:11 GMT
I wonder how many Saints fans wanted him back after the Wealdstone debacle
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livo
Saints Trialist
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Post by livo on Oct 1, 2024 11:10:58 GMT
There’s so many fundamental issues that have gone on this season and in my opinion, it’s absolutely evident why we sit bottom of the NLS.
1.Nobby coming back to take over Meakes position demoting him to second choice was a poor decision. I don’t think either are up to the job in any position. Sooner they go, quicker we can move on and sort out these results.
2.letting go Weiss easily was always gonna backfire. Someone who wants to fight and move up top was lost instantly, you don’t get strikers like him often. Ken is injury prone and could be of good use if remains fit.
3.I’m gonna say it. I never wanted Jeffers to stay over the summer. Too old and I knew he wouldn’t score the goals he has in past seasons. Seems really lazy this year and really wasteful infront of goal. Should’ve shipped him off in the summer to balance up the budget to keep Weiss? Or get adequate depth in the striker position.
4th point, why on earth would your backup striker be Sam Meakes. Waste of space.
5.Some of the players last year who were so out of form were given a second chance with contracts! MJ, Bowry, Akinola (coming back from injury) and Gio Rasulo. The issue is these players are our core which is a huge issue considering they’re all bloody pony.
6. Going with a paper thin coaching team isn’t beneficial to any of the players. Just having nobby and Meakes isn’t enough.
7.Recruitment has now unfolded to be very poor. Deadfield has looked better in recent games ish don’t think he was worth getting in. Ken and Long-king were pretty solid signings. Introducing Akinola back in has been a huge mistake and Payne seems to be pretty much like Wiltshire no improvement replacement wise there.
8.MJ gets his own point. He’s let in a goal a game and has been diabolical this season (like last season). Turning into a Deano Sneadker before he was shipped off.
9.injuries seem to be the main excuse this year (like last). I genuinely have no sympathy anymore for this excuse. nobby had all summer to get the appropriate depth. Midfield doesn’t cry quality players coming off the bench. (Okay we’ve got Hoddle now hopefully). Fullback seems paper thin. Strikers, well we have Meakes as backup (wow!). Not only this but I am embarrassed to see that Romeo and Iffy Allen are fighting for a place (they’re both so poor).
10.Final point. Our philosophy, how we play. It doesn’t work. It’s so inconsistent. Yes we have the best passing stats in the league. But when you don’t have players wanting to drive us on , and strikers/wingers not wanting to move into channels teams sit back and are happy to counter. Akinola was embarrassing Saturday with how long he took with his cut ins to get a ball in the box (eventually when he did it was headed away which is the result of all our crosses). This short corner business is absolutely pathetic aswell.
Overall, I am incredible worried. Those who think it will get better, it won’t until change happens. Loans have been one of the only positives that have slightly improved the side. You saw with Havant and Dartford last year, this league doesn’t care about ur crowd or how much money you chuck at this division. It’ll spit you out of it. If the Next game isn’t won, We’re absolutely scrapping for our lives and we will for sure be in a relegation battle.
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boojiboy
Saints Reserve Team Player
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Post by boojiboy on Oct 1, 2024 12:50:07 GMT
Starting pre-season friendlies too late, one or two weeks after everyone else. Straight into supposedly high profile (that no one came to) matches against superior opposition where we just chased the ball for 90 minutes. We started the competitive season with all of the players looking like strangers to each other.
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Post by EFMTFTV on Oct 1, 2024 13:19:38 GMT
IA wont wont to come anywhere near the club with the 2 jokers in charger The issue is the owners have absolutely zero knowledge of the non league game and will have no contacts No, that's absolutely right, and in their efforts to try to sustain the Club the best they can, it's hard to see any sort of established, decent manager from "outside", getting the job should Noble walk or get sacked. It's bound to be another cheap, easy, appointment, Quite likely to be another appointment from "within" if or when the time comes. It makes you wonder who has applied for the job over the last few appointments and who have been unsuccessful, l imagine we'll never know that. I know IA wasn't everybody's cup of tea, but he was more experienced than Noble, and someone l thought who could command respect, but it's the sort of team manager we need, an experienced, older one than Noble I understand the club tried to get Ross Jenkins when Nobby left but he wanted to see out the season at Oxford City and said come back in the summer, but we went for Nobby Now Ross Jenkins is back at Oxford and you feel we've missed out on two quality available managers in the past fortnight (Luke Garrard being the other - although not sure I'd want him here) If he does go I'd expect Partington to take temp charge and I've heard the manager of Real Bedford being banded around |
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Post by saintsman2000 on Oct 1, 2024 14:01:16 GMT
I have to say I think every fan on here wanted Noble appointed first time round. Also considering how it took 5/6 weeks to appoint him as permanent after IA left does show that the owners were considering alternative options Do you want Noble to stay? If we don’t win either of the next two then we should look at a replacement but a replacement for him has to be well thought out… |
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Post by saintsman2000 on Oct 1, 2024 14:04:42 GMT
Starting pre-season friendlies too late, one or two weeks after everyone else. Straight into supposedly high profile (that no one came to) matches against superior opposition where we just chased the ball for 90 minutes. We started the competitive season with all of the players looking like strangers to each other. The short pre-season killed us. Increases the risk of injury tenfold in my opinion |
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Post by jj123 on Oct 1, 2024 14:09:37 GMT
Starting pre-season friendlies too late, one or two weeks after everyone else. Straight into supposedly high profile (that no one came to) matches against superior opposition where we just chased the ball for 90 minutes. We started the competitive season with all of the players looking like strangers to each other. The short pre-season killed us. Increases the risk of injury tenfold in my opinion Your level of trolling is exceptional. Digging up every single possible excuse apart from Noble being at fault is impressive Perhaps the water in the water-bottles is too cold? |
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Post by saintsman2000 on Oct 1, 2024 14:12:01 GMT
The short pre-season killed us. Increases the risk of injury tenfold in my opinion Your level of trolling is exceptional. Digging up every single possible excuse apart from Noble being at fault is impressive Perhaps the water in the water-bottles is too cold? Don’t understand how that’s an excuse. I’m criticising the club/ staff in having such a short pre-season. Less games played means players are less fit come start of the season. Does that make sense… |
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Post by jj123 on Oct 1, 2024 15:14:09 GMT
Lol
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Post by saintsdad on Oct 1, 2024 17:33:29 GMT
Do you want Noble to stay? If we don’t win either of the next two then we should look at a replacement but a replacement for him has to be well thought out… A win against either Salisbury (16th) or Hitchin Town (22nd and bottom of the Southern League Premier Central) would definitely help Doesn't feel like Meakes' replacement was well thought out |
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Post by saintsman2000 on Oct 1, 2024 21:12:11 GMT
If we don’t win either of the next two then we should look at a replacement but a replacement for him has to be well thought out… A win against either Salisbury (16th) or Hitchin Town (22nd and bottom of the Southern League Premier Central) would definitely help Doesn't feel like Meakes' replacement was well thought out Herts cup doesn’t count. Glorified friendly |
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Post by Boomer on Oct 1, 2024 21:45:28 GMT
Doesn't count for what, exactly?
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Post by saintsman2000 on Oct 1, 2024 22:01:33 GMT
Doesn't count for what, exactly? It’s just used for fitness and confidence. No one defines their season by winning it. Also it’s dreadfully run by the Herts FA. It’s basically a friendly for our U23s and bench players. |
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Post by Boomer on Oct 1, 2024 22:09:11 GMT
I take it that the 2 games count towards Zane Banton's suspension, though and he will be available for selection for the game on Saturday week at Hampton & Richmond.
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Post by bob666 on Oct 2, 2024 4:12:09 GMT
A win against either Salisbury (16th) or Hitchin Town (22nd and bottom of the Southern League Premier Central) would definitely help Doesn't feel like Meakes' replacement was well thought out Herts cup doesn’t count. Glorified friendly I quite like the Herts County Cup, in 'normal' times - when we are mid table. Obviously it less important than the league, FA Cup and Trophy but I want to see St Albans win things and its a realistic chance to do this. Going back on what others have said. For me Wheeler and Noble are both culpable for our situation. Wheeler took a decent budget and mucked up the recruitment to create a unbalanced squad. However, there still enough in the squad that we should not be bottom, that is on Noble. We have to appoint a external candidate. We a M25 team (so lots of managers within a hour's drive) and we one of the bigger clubs in the conference south with decent potential, it should be that hard to fins a decent candidate. In terms of the owners we need to be balanced. Since the club ceased to be ammeter it has constantly run large losses and a potential financial crisis has always been around the corner. The owners have done a excellent job increasing revenue, making the club more self sufficient and guaranteeing its long-term stability. On the other hand, they made no progress in establishing a 'proper football structure'. What I mean by this is never appointed a proper chair who understands the non-league game and can put a proper process in place for recruiting football staff. Levy should be chair in charge of commercial decisions and financial control- set budgets. But he should appoint a parallel chair to hire coaches, take key footballing decisions. He clearly does not have the expertise or contacts to do this. So we just end up appointing whoever is on hand as coach/director of football and hope we get lucky. It sort feels like we have a conference national commercial set up and a south Spartan league football one. Surely it could not that hard to find someone to act as a footballing chair and take key decisions on managerial recruitment etc. It would need |
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Post by jj123 on Oct 2, 2024 6:49:16 GMT
Doesn't count for what, exactly? It’s just used for fitness and confidence. No one defines their season by winning it. Also it’s dreadfully run by the Herts FA. It’s basically a friendly for our U23s and bench players. Look at all those u23's and bench players we played against Potters Bar Town when we lifted the Herts Charity Cup a few months ago: Line up this afternoon - Johnson,James, Partington (c), Longe-King, Bowry, Rasulo, Akinola, Payne, Deadfield, Banton, Jeffers. Subs - Allen, Charles, Gauthier, Meakes, Smith. |
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Post by lagerman on Oct 2, 2024 9:54:30 GMT
Herts cup doesn’t count. Glorified friendly I quite like the Herts County Cup, in 'normal' times - when we are mid table. Obviously it less important than the league, FA Cup and Trophy but I want to see St Albans win things and its a realistic chance to do this. Going back on what others have said. For me Wheeler and Noble are both culpable for our situation. Wheeler took a decent budget and mucked up the recruitment to create a unbalanced squad. However, there still enough in the squad that we should not be bottom, that is on Noble. We have to appoint a external candidate. We a M25 team (so lots of managers within a hour's drive) and we one of the bigger clubs in the conference south with decent potential, it should be that hard to fins a decent candidate. In terms of the owners we need to be balanced. Since the club ceased to be ammeter it has constantly run large losses and a potential financial crisis has always been around the corner. The owners have done a excellent job increasing revenue, making the club more self sufficient and guaranteeing its long-term stability. On the other hand, they made no progress in establishing a 'proper football structure'. What I mean by this is never appointed a proper chair who understands the non-league game and can put a proper process in place for recruiting football staff. Levy should be chair in charge of commercial decisions and financial control- set budgets. But he should appoint a parallel chair to hire coaches, take key footballing decisions. He clearly does not have the expertise or contacts to do this. So we just end up appointing whoever is on hand as coach/director of football and hope we get lucky. It sort feels like we have a conference national commercial set up and a south Spartan league football one. Surely it could not that hard to find someone to act as a footballing chair and take key decisions on managerial recruitment etc. It would need That's a great write up, l totally agree, regarding our set up. I guess it's a very fine line with what you have to spend and how you spend it, ie how much you spend off the field of play and how much you spend on it, on the playing and team management side, but l can't imagine it easy to get the balance right all of the time |
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Post by saintsdad on Oct 5, 2024 16:09:18 GMT
Do you want Noble to stay? If we don’t win either of the next two then we should look at a replacement but a replacement for him has to be well thought out… So beat Hampton (14th) and give Noble a new contract I reckon |
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