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Post by saintsdad on Oct 16, 2015 10:04:37 GMT
Has looked like this for quite some time Attachments:
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gdog
Saints Trialist
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Post by gdog on Oct 16, 2015 10:47:01 GMT
Hi when did you last check I can see it fine
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Post by PaperSaint on Oct 16, 2015 10:50:58 GMT
There was an issue with the site hosting earlier this week - which the hosting company resolved as soon as they were made aware of the it. However, it can be that if you accessed at that time and your browser has still retained that (stored in your browser cache) you may still have that issue unless you refresh / clear the browser cache. If anyone has an issue, just send me a message here and I'll see what can be done to assist in getting it resolved for you.
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oldgeezer
Saints Youth Team Player
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Post by oldgeezer on Oct 16, 2015 11:26:18 GMT
Mine's the same on chrome, but works fine on IE. Interweb is a mystery to me. (I did manage to clear the cache though!)
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oldgeezer
Saints Youth Team Player
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Post by oldgeezer on Oct 16, 2015 11:59:10 GMT
Now fine... Modern technology gets closer and closer to looking like magic!
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Post by PaperSaint on Oct 16, 2015 12:07:32 GMT
Thanks oldgeezer - that confirmed it was the caching issue. Modern technology might be magic at times but also often gets more and more complex behind the secenes as the internet can be accessed from more and more devices (fridges, car dashboards etc...) and each time there's new ways to view (or mess up) a website - that the developers need to deal with!
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Post by jj123 on Oct 16, 2015 12:09:11 GMT
Can we not go back to the old website? it was 10000% better than it is now.
Its not easy to naigate round either.
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Post by scottishsaint on Oct 16, 2015 12:51:43 GMT
we could have a poll on the message board
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Post by Boomer on Oct 16, 2015 16:38:45 GMT
It's a bit like the buses
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fatboy
Saints Youth Team Player
Posts: 200
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Post by fatboy on Oct 16, 2015 17:02:41 GMT
I think the new site while may not have all the information the old one had(history and past players) is just as good its fills the whole page and looks neat, Yes it is more modern and corporate in design. The information is still easy to find and do think maybe the team who have designed the website have a younger and dare I say a better understanding of how design works and needed to encourage local business to advertise on the site.
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kroofs
Saints Trialist
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Post by kroofs on Oct 19, 2015 15:40:58 GMT
can never log into the web page it just buffers continually
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Post by ex-saintswebbo on Oct 19, 2015 18:54:17 GMT
and do think maybe the team who have designed the website have a younger and dare I say a better understanding of how design works and needed to encourage local business to advertise on the site. oh that hurts!
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fatboy
Saints Youth Team Player
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Post by fatboy on Oct 19, 2015 19:16:04 GMT
Wasn't meant to, we all know the old website had far more information and did everything a website should have and more. Although nothing wrong with the old site I just think the new one is aimed at a different market its not about being better or worse. Still nowt wrong with having two sites one more history based and with all the information the old one had.
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Post by ex-saintswebbo on Oct 19, 2015 20:10:36 GMT
ahh! fatboy - your wish may just come true
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Post by casper on Oct 19, 2015 20:53:28 GMT
Wasn't meant to, we all know the old website had far more information and did everything a website should have and more. Although nothing wrong with the old site I just think the new one is aimed at a different market its not about being better or worse. Still nowt wrong with having two sites one more history based and with all the information the old one had. There was nothing wrong with the old website, provided you accessed it via a desktop PC or a large enough tablet. However, if you were using a mobile phone it was not the easiest or quickest way to navigate, as the site was never designed for mobile access. This is not a criticism of ex-saintswebbo but just down to the explosion in mobile usage over the last few years which has changed the internet. The old site was developed in HTML4 and the new site is developed in HTML5/CSS3/Javascript which can handle mobile devices, as well as tablets and desktops. The new site is 'mobile friendly' but lacking in some of the content from the old site. The best websites are often the simplest and cleanest design, without all the 'bells and whistles' that some think 'enhance' a website. I can see the new site is a bought in package which allows non-technical staff to update the content. Whilst the new site works to a degree on different devices, the home page is forever causing problems on different devices and browser combinations. It currently won't work on Win 10 using Firefox for me, despite clearing the cache. Images added to the site have been far too large in file size at times. I now avoid using the site via a mobile phone, unless I use wifi, due to the data usage it generates. Last time I looked the home page was 4mb of data download. This seems to defeat the object of implementing the new site though. To me the new website is two steps forward and four back.
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Post by PaperSaint on Oct 19, 2015 21:16:14 GMT
It's a fair point about the image sizes Casper - and we have been reducing those. I think currently on the speed tests (http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/cUKMef/www.stalbanscityfc.com) are showing the home page as being 2.9MB which is not too bad when compared to some other sites such as Weston-super-Mare (over 5MB). We do optimise images as much as possible and will look do even more over time. The content missing is of course player stats. We have linked to the old stats site and are looking to load in current player stats - it just takes time and currently we also have a whole host of other improvements to work on as well. For information, we did also experience a major issue last week. We use a CDN (Content Delivery Network) to host images, css files etc and unfortunately the company we use (MaxCDN - a well regarded provider) had a critical issue on the server cluster that we are hosted upon (incident history is on status.maxcdn.com/history). That caused images and css to break on the site and it has taken time for that to then resolve itself. Our new site is still developing and several other clubs in our league have also changed sites and are making improvements as they go. We don't have the luxury of professional web developers to do the work, just volunteers spending their free time in getting this moving forward (and some great contributions from a couple of professional website people). If anyone has issues just drop an email to digital@stalbanscityfc.com - we've had a few people send in ideas and we've actually implemented many of those. If anyone has a problem, we also do our best to sort it.
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yellowalf
Saints Reserve Team Player
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Post by yellowalf on Oct 20, 2015 7:17:19 GMT
There was nothing wrong with the old website, provided you accessed it via a desktop PC or a large enough tablet. However, if you were using a mobile phone it was not the easiest or quickest way to navigate, as the site was never designed for mobile access. This is not a criticism of ex-saintswebbo but just down to the explosion in mobile usage over the last few years which has changed the internet. To me the new website is two steps forward and four back. I agree with casper. An old work-colleague of mine regularly used the phrase "style over content" for anything he felt didn't do the job properly, and Steve Jobs once said: "Some people think design means how it looks. But, of course, if you dig deeper, it's really how it works.". The new site doesn't work efficiently and should have been started in beta phase alongside the old one, or offline to a small number of users. I would genuinely like to know the comparison of hits for the website this season compared to last season, not just the home page but number of users who move on from the home page yo other pages compared to those who give up there. The problem with attention-spans in 2015 is that many people will move on to some other source rather than persevere with something that doesn't work. Maybe the new site will encourage new users, my concern is that it will lose a lot more existing users and end up in net deficit over the old site.
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Post by asaintreborn on Oct 23, 2015 20:08:58 GMT
I have no problems operating the new site. Which Ironic because the old site never worked for me and it seems to the opposite of what other people are experiencing. It's a new site things take time to develop I'd imagine. I find the new sites content easy to access and functionally easier to navigate. I can't review the old site sadly because it never worked for me so I never really used it.
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