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Post by PaperSaint on Feb 12, 2016 12:04:45 GMT
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gdog
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Post by gdog on Feb 12, 2016 12:10:15 GMT
great appointment gives us a fighting chance , will bring a buzz around the ground tomorrow
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Post by bigwhizz on Feb 12, 2016 12:12:54 GMT
This will be interesting!
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Post by Saint on Feb 12, 2016 12:22:26 GMT
A few weeks late, but let's hope not too late.
May well give us a fighting chance of staying up.
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Post by casper on Feb 12, 2016 12:28:55 GMT
Great appointment but should have been made weeks ago.
Does this mean even more players through the revolving door ?
Where does this leave our 'Director of Football' ?
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Post by PaperSaint on Feb 12, 2016 12:41:51 GMT
Apparently it's the Director of Football role that Allinson was not enjoying at Wood. Adam Lee I understand has something to add I in terms of the business side of things - if it comes off, it could work well and with Harry as assistant to Allinson that will be great experience for Harry.
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Post by casper on Feb 12, 2016 12:41:57 GMT
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Post by casper on Feb 12, 2016 12:56:19 GMT
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gdog
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Post by gdog on Feb 12, 2016 13:10:15 GMT
Maybe Lawrence is branching out into the clothing industry
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Post by minty on Feb 12, 2016 13:11:23 GMT
Great appointment, shame it didn't happen a while ago. Good luck Ian and welcome!!
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Post by Boomer on Feb 12, 2016 13:58:48 GMT
It will be the 'mother' of all escapes, if Ian Allinson can manage to pull this off with only 15 games left. It is huge ask. Even Colin Lippiatt, in the 2004/5 season, took the best part of 4-5 weeks to start turning things around (albeit with almost the same players and just removing the dead wood), before taking us to safety. Welcome Ian and the very best of luck from me.
COYS!
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Feb 12, 2016 14:18:17 GMT
I assume quite a lot of people were hoping (as I was) that Ian Allinson would be appointed when Gray and Golds left. However, it's a bit too easy to suggest that because Allinson has been hired now, he was available then. We don't know the circumstances. We don't even know if Allinson was approached back then.
Either way, it's a welcome appointment and we have to hope it's not too late. It does at least give us a fighting chance to have at the helm a successful former professional player with experience of non-league football both higher and lower than our current position.
Time to pull together, get behind the team and hope for a (near) miracle. We have to beat Concord tomorrow and I think we will probably have to win seven of our remaining 15 games to have a shot at staying up.
Actually, we probably need 20 points from the next ten games – the chairman's target for the beginning of the season – to give us a good chance going into the final five.
We can have an inquest into why Levy and McGowan were seemingly convinced that Harry Wheeler was the answer and then suddenly he wasn't at a later date...
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Post by PaperSaint on Feb 12, 2016 15:28:49 GMT
I assume quite a lot of people were hoping (as I was) that Ian Allinson would be appointed when Gray and Golds left. However, it's a bit too easy to suggest that because Allinson has been hired now, he was available then. We don't know the circumstances. We don't even know if Allinson was approached back then. Reading the Danny Hunter interview, I get the impression that Allinson was wanting to give time to his new role as Director of Football but just didn't enjoy it and decided very recently to return to management. Hunter suggests the decision was quite sudden - so I think you may well be right that this decision has more to do with Allinson making himself available now.
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Post by Saint on Feb 12, 2016 15:37:55 GMT
Which hopefully suggests he'll have plenty of fight and desire, returning to the hot seat.
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Post by casper on Feb 12, 2016 16:04:34 GMT
Which hopefully suggests he'll have plenty of fight and desire, returning to the hot seat. Hope the players have the same fight and desire as the new manager. Isn't there a cut off date for signings , around mid-march ? Won't give Allinson too long to assess squad. Any chance Comley would be recalled from loan with a new manager in place ?
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Post by Saint on Feb 12, 2016 16:12:53 GMT
Which hopefully suggests he'll have plenty of fight and desire, returning to the hot seat. Hope the players have the same fight and desire as the new manager. Isn't there a cut off date for signings , around mid-march ? Won't give Allinson too long to assess squad. Any chance Comley would be recalled from loan with a new manager in place ? Maidenhead probably would've wanted something in the contract restricting ourselves from recalling him, however, I'm sure Allinson will be hoping he can do so. Of course though, Wheeler is still very much playing an important part, and will give Allinson his own view on things...
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Post by Boomer on Feb 12, 2016 16:13:16 GMT
I assume quite a lot of people were hoping (as I was) that Ian Allinson would be appointed when Gray and Golds left. However, it's a bit too easy to suggest that because Allinson has been hired now, he was available then. We don't know the circumstances. We don't even know if Allinson was approached back then. Either way, it's a welcome appointment and we have to hope it's not too late. It does at least give us a fighting chance to have at the helm a successful former professional player with experience of non-league football both higher and lower than our current position. Time to pull together, get behind the team and hope for a (near) miracle. We have to beat Concord tomorrow and I think we will probably have to win seven of our remaining 15 games to have a shot at staying up. Actually, we probably need 20 points from the next ten games – the chairman's target for the beginning of the season – to give us a good chance going into the final five. We can have an inquest into why Levy and McGowan were seemingly convinced that Harry Wheeler was the answer and then suddenly he wasn't at a later date... First and foremost, we need to stop setting targets, such as having to win 7/8 games from the last 15 or taking so many points from the next so many games. We need to take every game one by one, concentrate on that game and that game only and only then, move on to the next. Yes, it is vital, especially, that we secure points from all those teams in the lower half of the division and claw our way back into the mix but our only long term objective must be to hit 19th position, come close of play on 30 April. COYS!
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Post by Saint on Feb 12, 2016 16:15:10 GMT
I assume quite a lot of people were hoping (as I was) that Ian Allinson would be appointed when Gray and Golds left. However, it's a bit too easy to suggest that because Allinson has been hired now, he was available then. We don't know the circumstances. We don't even know if Allinson was approached back then. Either way, it's a welcome appointment and we have to hope it's not too late. It does at least give us a fighting chance to have at the helm a successful former professional player with experience of non-league football both higher and lower than our current position. Time to pull together, get behind the team and hope for a (near) miracle. We have to beat Concord tomorrow and I think we will probably have to win seven of our remaining 15 games to have a shot at staying up. Actually, we probably need 20 points from the next ten games – the chairman's target for the beginning of the season – to give us a good chance going into the final five. We can have an inquest into why Levy and McGowan were seemingly convinced that Harry Wheeler was the answer and then suddenly he wasn't at a later date... First and foremost, we need to stop setting targets, such as having to win 7/8 games from the last 15 or taking so many points from the next so many games. We need to take every game one by one, concentrate on that game and that game only and only then, move on to the next. Yes, it is vital, especially, that we secure points from all those teams in the lower half of the division and claw our way back into the mix but our only long term objective must be to hit 19th position, come close of play on 30 April. COYS! I'm not sure the owners or new manager will be too bothered by the targets we set on here, Boomer! They'll have their own goals, and like you said, it will most likely be game by game...
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Feb 12, 2016 16:27:28 GMT
What a bizarre comment Boomer.
Comrades must only set targets such as achieving a certain league position by a particular date.
No points targets shall be set.
This despite the fact the league table is ranked according to points won.
I guess some targets are better than others, eh? Is that it?
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Post by casper on Feb 12, 2016 16:33:57 GMT
There is only one target :- Avoid relegation. What happens between now and the end of the season is irrelevant if we stay up.
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Post by Boomer on Feb 12, 2016 16:49:09 GMT
First and foremost, we need to stop setting targets, such as having to win 7/8 games from the last 15 or taking so many points from the next so many games. We need to take every game one by one, concentrate on that game and that game only and only then, move on to the next. Yes, it is vital, especially, that we secure points from all those teams in the lower half of the division and claw our way back into the mix but our only long term objective must be to hit 19th position, come close of play on 30 April. COYS! I'm not sure the owners or new manager will be too bothered by the targets we set on here, Boomer! They'll have their own goals, and like you said, it will most likely be game by game... I am sure they will.
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Post by stincubus on Feb 12, 2016 18:00:52 GMT
Out of interest, does anyone have a complete list of City managers or know where I can find one?
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Post by Boomer on Feb 12, 2016 18:12:58 GMT
Out of interest, does anyone have a complete list of City managers or know where I can find one? I have sent you a p.m.
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Post by cityslicker88 on Feb 12, 2016 20:21:18 GMT
Firstly Ian Allinson was recommended to the chairman by the previous managers as he was available at the time and they new he would be interested in the job. I think by this appointment the owners have admitted that they got it wrong.
Im not sure what planet some are on in suggesting that back as early as November the previous managers resignation was too late in the season. There were still 25 games remaining with 75pts to play for. To put it into perspective, Ebbsfleet the runaway leaders, have 59pts to date.
Also look at Margate. They changed managers after us and now look at where they are in the league!! We were only 2pts behind with a game in hand when they had a change of manager, now they are pushing for a playoff place!!
Let's hope that the owners will now be fully supportive to our newly appointed manager in what he may feel is required to keep us in this league.
COYS
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Feb 12, 2016 20:21:32 GMT
If there's a full list of managers it would be interesting to see. There's a dearth of information out there.
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Feb 12, 2016 20:26:04 GMT
I know it's a dangerous assumption to make but surely a manager of Allinson's calibre would only have taken the job if he felt there was a better than even chance of succeeding and a firm commitment from the owners to back him, within reason?
Perhaps, as has been suggested in this thread, Allinson was not available when Gray and Golds went. Let's give the club the benefit of the doubt on that one for now. It could be that Allinson wanted to give his role at Boreham Wood a fair crack.
Anyway, Allinson is a good manager. People I've spoken to who played for him at Baldock, when he first started managing, speak volumes. And he did very well at Boring Wood, admittedly with a decent budget.
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Post by casper on Feb 12, 2016 21:14:41 GMT
Also look at Margate. They changed managers after us and now look at where they are in the league!! We were only 2pts behind with a game in hand when they had a change of manager, now they are pushing for a playoff place!! Considering the Margate owner/chairman has put in £2.5 million into the club over the past 2 years, I hardly think this is a fair comparison with us. Margate seem to be now fulfilling the expectations of a squad with an obviously larger playing budget than ourselves.
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Post by cityslicker88 on Feb 12, 2016 21:28:36 GMT
So what changed their fortunes Casper
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Post by Saint on Feb 19, 2016 13:22:11 GMT
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Post by Hatboy on Feb 20, 2016 11:46:18 GMT
All the best Boycie
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