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Jun 28, 2019 7:59:23 GMT
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Post by scottishsaint on Jun 28, 2019 7:59:23 GMT
So we're the only club in the league, out of all 22 teams, who don't make non-matchday income, you reckon? Maybe it's time for that 4G pitch! Or maybe matchday income should be maximised as best it can, and that ain't by pricing fans out of going to games. Time to find a new ground Great idea, if only the previous chairman with his own construction company had thought of that. Or the chairman before him. Or the chairman before him. Should we keep expecting 9% increases while the search continues? If it looked like all avenues in our current situation were being exhausted then fair enough, but it really doesn't
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albanian
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Post by albanian on Jun 28, 2019 8:51:57 GMT
In some ways it's not in the owners best interests to make our current situation more sustainable. The outrage over the price rise helps to put more pressure on the council over a new ground and it seems unlikely they'll stick around once any hope of a new ground is dead.
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Boycott
Jun 28, 2019 18:45:58 GMT
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Post by Hatboy on Jun 28, 2019 18:45:58 GMT
Surely Tom Norman leaving cuts into the costs quite a bit and they will lose as much money from people staying away as they will make from the price rises and of course they will also lose some of the good will that they have been building up, very silly move IMO
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Boycott
Jun 28, 2019 18:51:53 GMT
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Post by jj123 on Jun 28, 2019 18:51:53 GMT
Surely Tom Norman leaving cuts into the costs quite a bit and they will lose as much money from people staying away as they will make from the price rises and of course they will also lose some of the good will that they have been building up, very silly move IMO Got to be saving £25 / £28k a year alone from not employing Tom Norman.
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Post by casper on Jun 28, 2019 18:57:14 GMT
In some ways it's not in the owners best interests to make our current situation more sustainable. The outrage over the price rise helps to put more pressure on the council over a new ground and it seems unlikely they'll stick around once any hope of a new ground is dead. Or the gates go down because of the price rise and the council then say 'Why do you need a bigger ground when your attendances are falling?'. We understand but will councillors who have no interest in football understand?
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saint2015
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Post by saint2015 on Jun 29, 2019 16:56:28 GMT
I don't think there'll be a problem if the on pitch performance is improved in proportion to the ticket price. We might even make the playoffs!
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Post by Hatboy on Jul 1, 2019 8:44:34 GMT
Everyone should turn out at Haringey and then see how the attendances compare for that and our first home friendly
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Post by ahad43 on Jul 2, 2019 9:38:24 GMT
In some ways it's not in the owners best interests to make our current situation more sustainable. The outrage over the price rise helps to put more pressure on the council over a new ground and it seems unlikely they'll stick around once any hope of a new ground is dead. Same reason why they presumably aren't looking for more investment in the club, more directors, more board members etc. I wonder how many other clubs in the league have a board of two.
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Post by ahad43 on Jul 2, 2019 9:42:03 GMT
Interesting post, yellowalf . Although it's very much written by an existing Saints supporter who's been going on and off for years and bleeds yellow and blue, rather than by a few mates or a Dad and his kid new to the area or whatever who are wondering what to do with their Saturday afternoon, isn't it?
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Post by sideshowbob on Jul 2, 2019 21:26:48 GMT
I don't see much future for the club.
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Boycott
Jul 3, 2019 9:06:30 GMT
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Post by lagerman on Jul 3, 2019 9:06:30 GMT
In some ways it's not in the owners best interests to make our current situation more sustainable. The outrage over the price rise helps to put more pressure on the council over a new ground and it seems unlikely they'll stick around once any hope of a new ground is dead. Same reason why they presumably aren't looking for more investment in the club, more directors, more board members etc. I wonder how many other clubs in the league have a board of two. So, could it just be that the owners are looking at this coming Season as their last, especially if there is no news of a new ground. And they may well be deciding after all the flak they have got over the ticket pricing, to just walk away, if not, they might end up deciding that after the flak they will be getting during the Season from people.
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Boycott
Jul 3, 2019 9:18:37 GMT
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Post by lagerman on Jul 3, 2019 9:18:37 GMT
But, personally, in terms of this Season coming, l hope that any remonstrating, bad feeling etc .. doesn't spill over into the football field and affect the playing staff and management. I'd like to see them getting on with their work, as we all would, 100% committed to getting us results on the field of play, and not be affected by any of this. But it's difficult l know, and of course any boycotts or demonstrations can do that, and if any of the Players have read this forum anyway, or Twitter etc .. they'll know what is going on. But, anyone is entitled to do what they feel they need to do, of course l understand that.
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Post by supersonic on Jul 4, 2019 14:12:58 GMT
£252 for a season ticket = £12 a game. What is the issue (unless you are a visiting supporter)?!
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Post by Canary Saint on Jul 4, 2019 14:50:32 GMT
£252 for a season ticket = £12 a game. What is the issue (unless you are a visiting supporter)?! I first started watching City in the early sixties, for the first few years going to all home games and quite a lot of away games. After a while life got in the way and the number of games attended decreased. However in later years I started going to most Saturday home games despite living in Hitchin. To me the the price hike would be quite an issue if I had not stopped going when the price went up to £15.
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Boycott
Jul 4, 2019 15:01:47 GMT
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Post by scottishsaint on Jul 4, 2019 15:01:47 GMT
£252 for a season ticket = £12 a game. What is the issue (unless you are a visiting supporter)?! So ignoring visiting supporters, do you think every single person who goes to the Park for a home game is a season ticket holder?
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Boycott
Jul 4, 2019 19:19:21 GMT
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Post by sideshowbob on Jul 4, 2019 19:19:21 GMT
Snore! Snore!
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Post by Hatboy on Jul 4, 2019 20:34:13 GMT
Wake up and smell the coffee
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Boycott
Jul 4, 2019 20:46:14 GMT
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Post by scottishsaint on Jul 4, 2019 20:46:14 GMT
Easy to say that when you aren't planning on going to games anyway, isn't it Bob?
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Post by casper on Jul 4, 2019 21:24:25 GMT
£252 for a season ticket = £12 a game. What is the issue (unless you are a visiting supporter)?! You are assuming that season ticket holders can get to every league game? Approximately 15 games is the break even point for a season ticket @ £16.50, so attending anything over 15 games reduces the cost. How are you going to attract new regular supporters if they turn up and get charged £18, see a poor game and go home thinking that wasn't worth the money? If the crowds go down as a result of the price increase then using logic , the playing budget gets reduced and player quality goes down. Performances deteriorate and crowds reduce further and you are in a downward spiral. What about the cost for families with children?
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Post by saintsdad on Jul 4, 2019 21:53:14 GMT
The only people who are either appy-clappy or even content with the price rises seem to be existing season ticket holders. Who cares about new regular supporters, families with children etc? We want to be sustainable, don't we? And if that means alienating all but maybe 200 fans then so be it.
If Lawrence and John are putting in £100,000 per year why don't they just charge those 200 season ticket holders £500 for a season ticket? That's perfectly sustainable isn't it?
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Post by sideshowbob on Jul 4, 2019 22:32:49 GMT
you lot are better than a sleeping pill! yawn! yawn!
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Boycott
Jul 4, 2019 22:47:34 GMT
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Post by pitchsidesaint on Jul 4, 2019 22:47:34 GMT
The only people who are either appy-clappy or even content with the price rises seem to be existing season ticket holders. Who cares about new regular supporters, families with children etc? We want to be sustainable, don't we? And if that means alienating all but maybe 200 fans then so be it. If Lawrence and John are putting in £100,000 per year why don't they just charge those 200 season ticket holders £500 for a season ticket? That's perfectly sustainable isn't it? We have some fantastic deals for families compared to many other clubs. Under 12s free when others charge. Family tickets that other clubs don't offer. Young Saints for £5 that provides fantastic benefits. And pre-purchase option now which new supporters and especially families prefer.
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Post by saintsdad on Jul 5, 2019 7:37:46 GMT
We have some fantastic deals for families compared to many other clubs... £26 as long as all are members. So an extra £1.19 per adult based on the cost of a membership split over 21 games, assuming they attend every game but don't have a season ticket. And an extra 48p per under 16. So assuming there are two adults and 2 under 16s a family ticket is £29.34. Once again it's cheaper to buy a non-member family ticket (£27) than memberships and a member family ticket. Under 12s free when others charge... Only if they are accompanied. What if a group of year 7s from Verulam or wherever want to come down and watch a game - has it been announced how much they would have to pay? And pre-purchase option now which new supporters and especially families prefer. According to whom? You? Because you've said a lot of things on this board over the last week or two that have turned out to be completely made up.
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Post by Canary Saint on Jul 5, 2019 8:58:46 GMT
you lot are better than a sleeping pill! yawn! yawn! The pure brilliance of your argument has got me there. However I suggest that you ignore this thread if it keeps sending you to sleep.
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Post by scottishsaint on Jul 5, 2019 9:28:28 GMT
We have some fantastic deals for families compared to many other clubs... £26 as long as all are members. So an extra £1.19 per adult based on the cost of a membership split over 21 games, assuming they attend every game but don't have a season ticket. And an extra 48p per under 16. So assuming there are two adults and 2 under 16s a family ticket is £29.34. Once again it's cheaper to buy a non-member family ticket (£27) than memberships and a member family ticket. Under 12s free when others charge... Only if they are accompanied. What if a group of year 7s from Verulam or wherever want to come down and watch a game - has it been announced how much they would have to pay?
pitchsidesaint - you mention 'fantastic deals for families' compared to many other clubs. As saintsdad has pointed out, the 'deal' is a minimum of £29.34 for two adults and two children if all are members. Which is more expensive than standard matchday tickets for two adults and two children at at least 11 other clubs in the league.
As for praising the fact that accompanied under 12s are free when other clubs charge - one paying adult and one 'free' under 12 would cost £18 / £16.69 minimum / £15.50 at Clarence Park. Which is more expensive than one adult and one under 12 at at least 13 other clubs in the league. More expensive are Braintree (£20 in total), Maidstone, Tonbridge and Weymouth (£17 in total - so cheaper than our on the gate price), and Slough Town (£16 in total - so cheaper than the on the gate price and the exclusive member's price). I couldn't find up-to-date prices for a couple of sides but if they are anything like the vast majority of all the other clubs in the league...
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Post by scottishsaint on Jul 5, 2019 9:28:55 GMT
you lot are better than a sleeping pill! yawn! yawn! The pure brilliance of your argument has got me there. However I suggest that you ignore this thread if it keeps sending you to sleep. A bit odd that he posted that past midnight
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Boycott
Jul 5, 2019 14:04:25 GMT
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Post by porkypig on Jul 5, 2019 14:04:25 GMT
O read it at 11-59 it only took a few minutes to send me to sleep! Absolutely brilliant.
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Boycott
Jul 5, 2019 14:05:07 GMT
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Post by porkypig on Jul 5, 2019 14:05:07 GMT
I read i should say!
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Post by Hatboy on Jul 21, 2019 22:03:33 GMT
Do as I say not as I do
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