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Post by notsorecentconvert on May 5, 2015 21:25:51 GMT
I think one of the biggest questions is whether the money is in addition to the owners maintaining their current 2014-15 level of expenditure (I hesitated to say investment).
Or is the boost the budget scheme to cover for a reduced level of financial support from the owners.
Let me make it clear, I have no issue with the owners saying "we're going to have to scale back because we can't afford to keep putting in this amount of money" as long as they actually say that.
If the boost the budget scheme is boosting the playing budget, that's fantastic. If it is covering for a reduced spend by the owners that may also be fine but I think there should be a greater level of transparency than there is currently.
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Post by PaperSaint on May 5, 2015 22:09:35 GMT
It is boosting the existing level of investment. The club have been very transparent in meetings with SBYS and I know Lawrence will always do his best to chat with anyone who approaches him. I don't think there is any intent to not be transparent - just a question of having time and people to do it all (anyone in government will tell you that transparency can be a wonderful thing - but needs resources)
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 8:28:14 GMT
does transparent just mean saying the money will be used for the budget ?
it would of been good if the snowball could of been sorted and rebranded and stuff before or at the same time as the season tickets were announced so it could of been used as a selling point so join the new sorted out snowball and get 10 pounds off a season ticket tying it in to both launches but i suppose theres a lot of work involved with both so its not easy
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Post by jj123 on May 6, 2015 8:37:02 GMT
When with SBYS be hosting an open meeting for all to attend?
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Post by PaperSaint on May 6, 2015 15:27:00 GMT
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Post by asaintreborn on May 6, 2015 19:47:05 GMT
As you can imagine Matt there is only so much that can be done at one time. With the amount of current volunteers, the fact we all work full time jobs and some have families it's just not possible to deal with so many things at once! There has been so much going on behind the scenes it's crazy. I'll give you a little insight three weeks ago I met up with cliff egan ex stoke City/wolves commercial manager and current commercial manager of margate. To talk about potential fundraising initiatives. It didn't work out, but that's the kinda length we have gone too. However, we have made a connection and he is happy to give advice in the future. We only started 7 weeks ago. We are just try to find our feet and our main focus is the event. After the event we can refocus for schemes for next season. I'm looking forward to see you all at the Stand By Your Saints event on the 30th and answer as many questions as possible.
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Post by asaintreborn on May 6, 2015 20:28:41 GMT
Hi JJ the first open meeting will be after the event now. Will let people no time and dates nearer the time.
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Post by westwalessaint on May 6, 2015 20:33:11 GMT
Just to add my twopenneth again - I think all these initiatives are fantastic. I wish there were these ideas in the late 70's. I think that Saints fans being involved and contributing to funding in their own way gives them ownership and a say in the clubs development. What has always been a big problem is not owners. Sure - they come and go - and some really want the club to succeed (as I believe the current owners do). The real problem is that if fans want their local club to be successful then just turning up to watch matches isn't enough. There needs to be significant numbers of fans playing their part behind the scenes e.g. Fundraising and promotin the club, practical jobs around the ground and so on. C'mon folks - put your money, time and commitment where your mouth is. We all want Saints to succeed. I definitely think we've got the managers to do it given the resources.
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Post by PaperSaint on May 6, 2015 20:56:32 GMT
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Post by moriarty on May 6, 2015 23:01:34 GMT
How about the "make our facilities slightly less manky" fund? I think this would have a far more reaching impact on most people's enjoyment. I pay enough to get through the falling apart gates already. Perhaps the owners could contribute to this too. What a joke.
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Post by COYS on May 6, 2015 23:10:49 GMT
How about the "make our facilities slightly less manky" fund? I think this would have a far more reaching impact on most people's enjoyment. I pay enough to get through the falling apart gates already. Perhaps the owners could contribute to this too. What a joke. Hi Moriarty, AppySaint has already referenced a separate fund, the Legacy Fund, which will be used to address issues such as the one you've raised. "If you don't trust your club, we also have another fund - Saints Legacy Fund - that is a general fundraising fund to be used for improving facilities and the money will be spent by SBYS not the club."
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Post by PaperSaint on May 7, 2015 5:07:53 GMT
Hi moriarty,
COYS is right, that is why the Legacy Fund was developed.
I know you also posted last year: "I like the question about volunteers. If everyone willing fan did something small it would achieve a lot. There are lots of people with ideas and people willing the club to progress but no one to unite them. Do we need some regular and obvious coordination from within the club which is open to all fans to take advantage of anything like that."
This exactly what SBYS is about - really hope therefore that you like where we are heading and we do need more volunteers getinvolved@StandByYourSaints.com
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 6:47:20 GMT
arent the trust paying for improving facilities and stuff already ?
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Post by PaperSaint on May 7, 2015 7:23:29 GMT
The trust have paid for specific maintenance projects, such as this year with the floodlights. The club (owners) also regularly have to pay maintenance costs, such as recent boiler problems, as although they pay a peppercorn rent - their maintenance obligations are as though they owned the stadium, unlike some clubs where the council will do some or all maintenance works but with added 'bonus' of it being a conservation area and so choice of paint colour etc all has to be approved by the council before works can be done. SBYS are looking to improve certain facilities - rather than maintain - that will either improve the experience for fans especially families or provide commercial benefit to the club whilst it remains at Clarence Park.
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Post by PaperSaint on May 7, 2015 13:19:25 GMT
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Post by PaperSaint on May 20, 2015 11:25:41 GMT
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Post by Hatboy on Jun 8, 2015 11:14:18 GMT
I saw in the NLP that Grimsby Town started a similar fund 'Operation Promotion' and have already raised £62,000 !
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 8, 2015 16:04:10 GMT
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 9, 2015 6:25:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 7:12:25 GMT
the grimsby one looks a lot more appealing and will probably be a lot more successful than the lincoln one !
at least both show a running total but the grimsby one is much more open and detailed and fans get more back than just good feelings !
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 9, 2015 12:45:10 GMT
...fans get more back than just good feelings ! That's why we set up the Loyalty Card for our Boost the Budget scheme: "The Loyalty Card will provide you with the following benefits: 10% discount on purchases from the club shop (excluding any existing offers) 5% discount in the Saints Bar (excluding any promotional offers) £2 discount on coach travel to away games If your business sets up a direct debit or a recurring payment for a minimum monthly amount of £25, your business will be entitled to a 10% discount on hospitality packages." standbyyoursaints.com/boost-the-budget-loyalty-card/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 13:48:33 GMT
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 9, 2015 17:24:01 GMT
Crowd funder takes 6% of money raised in addition to charges incurred for PayPal payments etc. Our approach only incurs the payment provider charges ie saving the 6% fee - but we don't get the thermometer
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 9:42:36 GMT
i thought the thermometer was done by grimsby
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 10, 2015 9:52:07 GMT
You're right - I was thinking about the crowdfunder progress bar
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Post by PaperSaint on Jun 20, 2015 9:43:06 GMT
Stand by your Saints have a target of £1,000 per month for Boost the Budget and we will be looking at putting some kind of graphic on the site to display this - and progress. Currently, we are about a third of our way to that target - which is good going given we aren't even in pre-season yet. This coming season is looking to be very competitive with more teams looking to throw money at their teams - and so all players are looking for more money, money that we do not have. We can help our club with Boost the Budget: standbyyoursaints.com/fundraisers/boost-the-budget/
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Post by Hatboy on Aug 2, 2015 16:38:52 GMT
saw that Grimsby's fund has raised over £100,000 I know ours isn't anywhere near that but it is already helping to shape the playing squad
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Post by PaperSaint on Aug 3, 2015 17:23:03 GMT
We have already reached 50% of our target - which is great given that we haven't even started the season yet. Hopefully as the impact is appreciated, we will continue to build on this initial success.
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Post by PaperSaint on Aug 13, 2015 19:51:29 GMT
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