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Post by casper on May 6, 2020 11:41:08 GMT
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Post by ahad43 on May 6, 2020 12:58:26 GMT
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euclid
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Post by euclid on May 6, 2020 20:25:33 GMT
Why does there need to be a membership scheme, when the home attendances average around 500?
Are people really bothered about saving 50p a pint ?
Hopefully by the time we eventually start playing football again, the Marketing gurus will have thought of something constructive to get back the missing fans.
Before someone inevitably says what would you do, here are a couple of my suggestions;
1. Season tickets £150. Get people back in the ground, then most will spend more in the ground on beer/food/programmes/raffle tickets/Club merchandise.
2. Match admission prices reduce back to £15. Good PR and get the feel good factor back to Clarence Park !!
Discuss....
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Post by bob666 on May 7, 2020 0:33:12 GMT
interesting how our approach contrasts with Boreham woods. Think there assessment of the situation is more realistic
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Post by lagerman on May 7, 2020 8:39:08 GMT
Will there ever be a season 2020/2021 in the Non-Leagues ?? Hmmmmm ... I'm not so sure. If there is, l feel it could be a shortened one starting in the 2nd half of the season, next year.
Social distancing is going to be with us for a long, long time to come.
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Post by ahad43 on May 7, 2020 12:03:29 GMT
£15 is still high for me, euclid, but it would be a start
Paying £25 to get 10% off a season ticket (cost around £250) doesn't make sense to me, but then neither does trying to push a membership scheme when no-one really knows what next season will bring.
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albanian
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Post by albanian on May 7, 2020 14:29:42 GMT
Paying £25 to get 10% off a season ticket (cost around £250) doesn't make sense to me, but then neither does trying to push a membership scheme when no-one really knows what next season will bring. It's this sort of stuff that I find most frustrating. All these nonsense convoluted offers, with all the charm of an online retailer continutally spamming you with offers because you bought something off them once. People go to non-league football to get away from this sort of crap, for something more real and more human. Stuff your 10% online discounts in advance and super amazing limited offer deals that don't actually save anyone any money. As euclid said, £15 on the gate, genuinely good value season tickets and show supporters you actually care. I'm so sick of all this. |
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Post by EFMTFTV on May 8, 2020 23:02:01 GMT
Get people in the ground, don't rip them off or make them feel like they are being ripped off
Have a good matchday experience with decent food and drinks at the bar
Plenty of people will contribute to boost the budget and the like should they wish to help the club out
Just another fad by the clueless people running the club
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Post by ahad43 on May 9, 2020 6:36:45 GMT
The thing is, if it was a good idea, or even a sensible one, if the club were announcing a £99 season ticket, the timing would still be a bit ridiculous considering no-one knows what the plan is for next season yet.
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Post by bob666 on May 10, 2020 2:23:44 GMT
If the relationship between fans and owners was stronger a lot of people (well at least me) would be willing to drop £99 on a season ticket as a act of solidarity despite the likelihood that I not going to see any football. Ultimately I believe the owners see the club as a means of making money from property so have no desire to chip in.
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Post by saint68 on Jun 4, 2020 10:59:23 GMT
It’s interesting that the Club wants us to give them money for Membership while failing to offer season ticket holders either a refund or a credit for the unplayed matches of last season. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t ask for one, but it would be nice to get the offer!
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 4, 2020 12:26:20 GMT
The club's engagement with the fans through official channels is pathetic and has been for some time, unfortunately
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Post by norfamptonsaint on Jun 4, 2020 12:36:31 GMT
Assuming that games would have to be played behind closed park gates, how about adapting that idea to put cardboard cut-outs of supporters around the ground? You could pay for having your cut-out in your favourite place (mine would be under the tree) game-by-game and look forward to catching sight of it on the live-stream (which could also be introduced as a chargeable service); technology is currently being tested on the BBC to allow an audience (crowd) to provide audio feedback (e.g. cheer, applaud, sing, boo, swear etc) which could be played over the tannoy to add some spice.
I wonder which player during your time of watching City, might as well have been a cardboard cut-out?
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 4, 2020 12:58:48 GMT
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Post by stafans on Jun 4, 2020 15:27:00 GMT
Question: who comes up with ideas and schemes for the club, is it fan groups or owners/employees?
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Post by casper on Jun 4, 2020 21:06:45 GMT
It’s interesting that the Club wants us to give them money for Membership while failing to offer season ticket holders either a refund or a credit for the unplayed matches of last season. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t ask for one, but it would be nice to get the offer! Or even donate the 'refund' money to a local charity to help out during to current pandemic. |
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 4, 2020 21:34:34 GMT
Question: who comes up with ideas and schemes for the club, is it fan groups or owners/employees? Spineless yes men? |
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Post by saintarry on Jun 4, 2020 22:08:33 GMT
It’s interesting that the Club wants us to give them money for Membership while failing to offer season ticket holders either a refund or a credit for the unplayed matches of last season. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t ask for one, but it would be nice to get the offer! Or even donate the 'refund' money to a local charity to help out during to current pandemic. Are we the only nonleague club where supporters dont want to help club? |
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Post by jj123 on Jun 5, 2020 8:27:11 GMT
I'm sure the 300+ supporters who are boycotting and no longer donating to boost the budget will be more than happy to help the club when these two jokers sell up.
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Post by saint68 on Jun 5, 2020 11:42:36 GMT
It’s interesting that the Club wants us to give them money for Membership while failing to offer season ticket holders either a refund or a credit for the unplayed matches of last season. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t ask for one, but it would be nice to get the offer! Or even donate the 'refund' money to a local charity to help out during to current pandemic. Good idea! |
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Post by stafans on Jun 5, 2020 14:59:40 GMT
Question: who comes up with ideas and schemes for the club, is it fan groups or owners/employees? Spineless yes men? Lol |
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Post by saints17mad on Jun 7, 2020 9:16:59 GMT
Slightly off topic but does anyone know how the club comes to a decision over which initiatives it promotes and which ones are scrapped (if indeed any are?).
The reason I ask is that if the club truly wants to engage with it's fan base and in turn use the creative thoughts of the two supporters groups, surely it'd be useful to know which ideas have been looked into in the past and which initiatives have proved successful. The two supporters groups mayhave figures on which of its activities have proved successful? I appreciate a lot of it is dependent on how successful the team is on the pitch but during this current 'down time' you'd hope that ideas are being thrown around as to how to improve the club in all aspects.
I think we all know the ground has its limitations as to what's possible but in terms of feasibility does anyone actually know what's seriously been looked into? I've seen suggestions on here about artificial playing surfaces, has the club ever looked at that? Has the club ever looked at installing solar panels somewhere within the ground? I know they take years to reap some form of financial benefit from but how many years have we been at Clarence Park?
Just thought it'd be interesting to know what things the club has looked at to increase revenue other than raising ticket prices.
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 8, 2020 13:42:36 GMT
FYI memberships are actually £25.20 for adults because there is a 20p booking fee
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albanian
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Post by albanian on Jun 8, 2020 14:36:30 GMT
There does seem to be a small number of volunteers making the bulk of decisions without the backing of the majority of fans. I'm sure their hearts are in the right place, but I don't think their decisions are always the best informed.
It would be good to have a proper consultation with the fans at some point. Objectively the price increase has not achieved it's aims, but it seems unlikely this will be reviewed before we next play football.
Installing an artificial surface/solar panels won't happen at CP unless the owners admit defeat on securing a new stadium. Sadly the club's been stuck in limbo for decades. Every new owner wants to be the one to get us a new ground, as Clarence Park slowly crumbles.
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 8, 2020 15:05:51 GMT
Volunteers / spineless yes men, albanian. I wonder if the four people running the social media that Leigh Page mentioned are any closer to unblocking fellow Saints fans on twitter
There was a proper consultation at the start of 'this' season and look what happened there!
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albanian
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Post by albanian on Jun 8, 2020 16:28:57 GMT
Clearly the fans forum isn't a consultation. Lawrence's arguments in favour of the price rise were completely dismantled and it's probably the only time I've seen him lost for words. Regardless of every person speaking up against it, they ploughed on regardless. It's so so frustrating to see them sticking by it, when it so clearly hasn't worked. Can only conclude that they're stubbornly refusing to back down, because a few people have had their feelings hurt.
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 23, 2020 8:41:30 GMT
Clearly the fans forum isn't a consultation. Lawrence's arguments in favour of the price rise were completely dismantled and it's probably the only time I've seen him lost for words. Regardless of every person speaking up against it, they ploughed on regardless. It's so so frustrating to see them sticking by it, when it so clearly hasn't worked. Can only conclude that they're stubbornly refusing to back down, because a few people have had their feelings hurt. Shame isn't it. Four legs good, two legs bad. I thought I read that at the forum Lawrence said there would be a review of the ticket prices at the end of the season - I wonder if that's happened yet?
Maybe we need a plane with a banner flying over the park - 1000 @ £12 nets more than 600 @ £18
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albanian
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Post by albanian on Jun 23, 2020 11:27:54 GMT
Clearly the fans forum isn't a consultation. Lawrence's arguments in favour of the price rise were completely dismantled and it's probably the only time I've seen him lost for words. Regardless of every person speaking up against it, they ploughed on regardless. It's so so frustrating to see them sticking by it, when it so clearly hasn't worked. Can only conclude that they're stubbornly refusing to back down, because a few people have had their feelings hurt. Shame isn't it. Four legs good, two legs bad. I thought I read that at the forum Lawrence said there would be a review of the ticket prices at the end of the season - I wonder if that's happened yet? Maybe we need a plane with a banner flying over the park - 1000 @ £12 nets more than 600 @ £18
They've heard all the arguments before. Nothing will get through to them unless they're genuinely willing to listen and consider other viewpoints. |
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Post by casper on Jun 23, 2020 16:08:11 GMT
How will season ticket sales go, assuming we start the season at a time which makes this feasible? Who will risk a season ticket in the current climate, given that a second wave is a possibility? A reduction in season ticket sales could see an increase in match day income, to which this will be seen as justification for the price rise. Is it also possible we could see an increase in crowds due to supporters of league clubs who don't want to/can't travel to see their team in the current environment?
No one has the answer to any of these questions but the drop in season ticket sales seems most likely.
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Post by middxsaint on Jun 24, 2020 9:50:16 GMT
A season ticket may only cover 20 home games (not 21) as it looks like we get Ebbsfleet and lose Wealdstone plus one other. No promotion & relegation to the leagues below us.
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