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Post by jj123 on Aug 31, 2024 16:21:22 GMT
Last 12 League games: Drawn 2 lost 10
Last 22 League games: Won 3, Drawn 6, Lost 13
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Post by sideshowbob on Aug 31, 2024 17:16:45 GMT
He needs to go before we are in an inescapable position, 1 point from 18?
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Post by lagerman on Aug 31, 2024 18:41:39 GMT
Well, it'll become like a "mexican stand-off", Noble may well want to see it out, particularly if he really has got the support of the players, and he might be wary of trying his luck at a higher level again, after what happened at Wealdstone, but the owners, cos Noble was a cheap and easy fit for them, won't want to sack him, so all-in-all you've got Noble not wanting to go and the owners not wanting to get rid, so we all just have to hope that Noble sorts things out
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Post by sideshowbob on Aug 31, 2024 19:05:46 GMT
Not much chance of him putting things right, anymore than the owners getting a proper manager with some sort of record at this level.
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Post by jj123 on Aug 31, 2024 19:07:47 GMT
The owners have no contacts or knowledge of non league football, the best we can hope for is Noble leaving and Meakes taking over again.
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Post by sideshowbob on Aug 31, 2024 19:21:26 GMT
Not sure meakes is up to it, need a fresh start, not go backwards
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Post by BOBbanjax on Aug 31, 2024 20:18:09 GMT
Last 12 League games: Drawn 2 lost 10 Last 22 League games: Won 3, Drawn 6, Lost 13 HES GOT TO GO |
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Post by bob666 on Aug 31, 2024 22:07:08 GMT
I not convinced Noble support from the ownership will be as clear as some suggest. It seems to be fairly widely accepted that there was a decent bump in the playing budget over the summer. The owners cannot have been expecting a relegation fight after increasing the budget. I get that they might not be bothered about promotion but they not going to want to go down. I get the point that the relationship between performance and attendance is complex but we are scoring less than a goal a game and its a dire watch. This has to have some impact of attendance no matter how good the chicken is. Even Dulwich's crowds have dipped a bit since the season they came a respectable 10th in Conference South
One of the problem for me is that team and the manager have got into the habit of losing. I when to see Luton V QPR on Friday and my Luton supporting friend argued that the problem is after the premier league season Luton have got used to losing and that tight games they have previously nicked they know lose largely because they expect to. Even if we can't get a better manager than Noble (Meakes) I think be positive to just have a different manager to freshen things up.
The thing about Levy is in some ways he done a excellent job. It always dangerous for a club to depend on huge owner subsidies as this leaves it very vulnerable if a owner walks away. The successful commercialisation of the match day experience has clearly put the club in a more sustainable position. However, I don't see why after being owner for so long he still has absolutely no contacts so we can draw on a wider pool of potential managers. I don't necessarily think he the right man going forward long term but if he do it I like to see Allinson back as a crisis manager to get us through the season.
Fans were divided when Noble came back. I was against it but if he had 5 wins and a draw I happy admit to being wrong but the same logic should apply it those who thought it was a good idea. When the facts change you have to change your mind.
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Post by lagerman on Sept 1, 2024 8:27:09 GMT
Not sure meakes is up to it, need a fresh start, not go backwards This is the problem at our Club, it's only ever going to be someone "from within", a cheap and easy fit, who is appointed manager. They are likely not to have massive experience of managing, some but not enough to really get the best out of us, to set us back up to where we need to be. I suppose that's because of the Clubs finances, a new manager coming in from outside may well have their own backroom staff they want to bring in as well, and unfortunately that'd break the bank l guess. |
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Post by jj123 on Sept 1, 2024 10:48:20 GMT
Not sure meakes is up to it, need a fresh start, not go backwards This is the problem at our Club, it's only ever going to be someone "from within", a cheap and easy fit, who is appointed manager. They are likely not to have massive experience of managing, some but not enough to really get the best out of us, to set us back up to where we need to be. I suppose that's because of the Clubs finances, a new manager coming in from outside may well have their own backroom staff they want to bring in as well, and unfortunately that'd break the bank l guess. It’s because the owners don’t have a clue! - IA approached them, Noble / Meakes were already here! |
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Post by EFMTFTV on Sept 1, 2024 13:29:13 GMT
In fact the only person they appointed otherwise was David Howell (and that was def down to Ian Ridley)
Golds and Grey were already here as well in the youth team
Have we really only had 4/5 managers in their entire tenure?
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 1, 2024 13:43:24 GMT
The owners should be looking at managers who have been successful at a lower level without having a big budget. Prime example gavin McPherson, who managed met police and then went to Enfield town and won promotion. After he left met police, they took voluntary relegation as they knew how well he done without the finances.
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Post by bob666 on Sept 1, 2024 13:58:25 GMT
Not sure meakes is up to it, need a fresh start, not go backwards This is the problem at our Club, it's only ever going to be someone "from within", a cheap and easy fit, who is appointed manager. They are likely not to have massive experience of managing, some but not enough to really get the best out of us, to set us back up to where we need to be. I suppose that's because of the Clubs finances, a new manager coming in from outside may well have their own backroom staff they want to bring in as well, and unfortunately that'd break the bank l guess. I not sure its primarily money. I no contacts inside the club but it seems generally agreed that there was a decent bump in the budget this year and that while certainly not among the top spenders in the league we have a respectable (top half) budget. Also do managers at this level have big backroom staffs they go around with? Maybe a assistant but that be about it? I just think its the complete lack of contacts. As I find its weird they done a lot right but to not have someone you can go to find you a manager is odd. One person who needs questioned alongside Noble is whoever does our fitness (Craig Lewis I believe). Most of injuries have not been contact injuries and if get loads of non contact injuries you got to look at the training programs the players are given. Of course injuries will happen but you got to manage the risk. The fitness person and physio need to work together to formulate appropriate programs. |
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Post by saintsman2000 on Sept 1, 2024 14:25:07 GMT
This is the problem at our Club, it's only ever going to be someone "from within", a cheap and easy fit, who is appointed manager. They are likely not to have massive experience of managing, some but not enough to really get the best out of us, to set us back up to where we need to be. I suppose that's because of the Clubs finances, a new manager coming in from outside may well have their own backroom staff they want to bring in as well, and unfortunately that'd break the bank l guess. I not sure its primarily money. I no contacts inside the club but it seems generally agreed that there was a decent bump in the budget this year and that while certainly not among the top spenders in the league we have a respectable (top half) budget. Also do managers at this level have big backroom staffs they go around with? Maybe a assistant but that be about it? I just think its the complete lack of contacts. As I find its weird they done a lot right but to not have someone you can go to find you a manager is odd. One person who needs questioned alongside Noble is whoever does our fitness (Craig Lewis I believe). Most of injuries have not been contact injuries and if get loads of non contact injuries you got to look at the training programs the players are given. Of course injuries will happen but you got to manage the risk. The fitness person and physio need to work together to formulate appropriate programs. Tafari, Akinola, Smith, Miccio have all been contact apparently so thats 4/7… |
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 1, 2024 14:29:08 GMT
I think there is a lack of quality in some of our signings,so the season will be a struggle, with or without noble.
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Post by saintsman2000 on Sept 1, 2024 14:33:09 GMT
I think there is a lack of quality in some of our signings,so the season will be a struggle, with or without noble. Don’t think any of our new signings have been bad. Deadfield and Castiglione have been brilliant and been key players, Tafari will be key when he gets fit, Ken has already caused opposition teams so many issues, Longe-king has been excellent. This orient lad has looked good. Although Payne hasn’t been brilliant |
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Post by bob666 on Sept 1, 2024 14:36:46 GMT
I not sure its primarily money. I no contacts inside the club but it seems generally agreed that there was a decent bump in the budget this year and that while certainly not among the top spenders in the league we have a respectable (top half) budget. Also do managers at this level have big backroom staffs they go around with? Maybe a assistant but that be about it? I just think its the complete lack of contacts. As I find its weird they done a lot right but to not have someone you can go to find you a manager is odd. One person who needs questioned alongside Noble is whoever does our fitness (Craig Lewis I believe). Most of injuries have not been contact injuries and if get loads of non contact injuries you got to look at the training programs the players are given. Of course injuries will happen but you got to manage the risk. The fitness person and physio need to work together to formulate appropriate programs. Tafari, Akinola, Smith, Miccio have all been contact apparently so thats 4/7… Are you sure? I hope our players don't kick each other in training. If they do I ask questions of Noble, so contact injuries would happen in games and it be obvious to the crowd. I cannot remember all these getting injured in games |
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Post by saintsman2000 on Sept 1, 2024 14:42:57 GMT
Tafari, Akinola, Smith, Miccio have all been contact apparently so thats 4/7… Are you sure? I hope our players don't kick each other in training. If they do I ask questions of Noble, so contact injuries would happen in games and it be obvious to the crowd. I cannot remember all these getting injured in games Tafari against Chesham took a knee in the back, Akinola has a bruising injury from maidstone, Smith has bruising from Hornchurch and Miccio picked up his injury in a tackle against Orient. Also Partington will always get injuries considering his age…. - Info obtained from match previews… |
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Post by jj123 on Sept 1, 2024 14:59:55 GMT
In fact the only person they appointed otherwise was David Howell (and that was def down to Ian Ridley) Golds and Grey were already here as well in the youth team Have we really only had 4/5 managers in their entire tenure? Does Harry Wheeler count? |
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Post by jj123 on Sept 1, 2024 15:03:15 GMT
I think there is a lack of quality in some of our signings,so the season will be a struggle, with or without noble. Don’t think any of our new signings have been bad. Deadfield and Castiglione have been brilliant and been key players, Tafari will be key when he gets fit, Ken has already caused opposition teams so many issues, Longe-king has been excellent. This orient lad has looked good. Although Payne hasn’t been brilliant 1-0 Defeat vs Maidstone 2-2 Draw vs Worthing 1-2 Defeat vs Hornchurch 2-1 Defeat vs Chesham 2-1 Defeat vs Dorking 1-0 Defeat vs Farnborough Charles has 1 goal in 6 - won't be challenging the goal scoring charts any time soon! |
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Post by saintsman2000 on Sept 1, 2024 15:08:09 GMT
Don’t think any of our new signings have been bad. Deadfield and Castiglione have been brilliant and been key players, Tafari will be key when he gets fit, Ken has already caused opposition teams so many issues, Longe-king has been excellent. This orient lad has looked good. Although Payne hasn’t been brilliant 1-0 Defeat vs Maidstone 2-2 Draw vs Worthing 1-2 Defeat vs Hornchurch 2-1 Defeat vs Chesham 2-1 Defeat vs Dorking 1-0 Defeat vs Farnborough Charles has 1 goal in 6 - won't be challenging the goal scoring charts any time soon! Shows that you haven’t seen him action. Our goal against chesham was created all by him. He has created a lot of chances and won us a lot of fouls. Being a CF isn’t just about scoring. Also he went off injured against Farnborough. He is a far better ‘all-round’ player than Shaun |
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 1, 2024 15:15:29 GMT
Charles is probably our best signing, unfortunately he is in a poor team
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Post by saintsman2000 on Sept 1, 2024 15:17:31 GMT
Charles is probably our best signing, unfortunately he is in a poor team . Would like to here why you don’t think some players aren’t good enough - any examples and reasons behind them |
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 1, 2024 15:25:57 GMT
We are in the present situation because the team isn't good enough.partington is far to slow, rusalo offers very little.
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Post by saintsman2000 on Sept 1, 2024 15:29:15 GMT
We are in the present situation because the team isn't good enough.partington is far to slow, rusalo offers very little. Funnily enough I agree on Partington but Rasulo has probably been one of our best players in the last two. Any of the new signings you want to comment on |
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 1, 2024 15:43:42 GMT
Nothing will change until, noble is replaced.
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Post by saintsdad on Sept 1, 2024 17:50:42 GMT
Players have looked excellent, brilliant etc, wonder what adjectives would be used if we actually won a couple of games
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Post by saintsdad on Sept 1, 2024 17:52:20 GMT
I suppose that's because of the Clubs finances, a new manager coming in from outside may well have their own backroom staff they want to bring in as well, and unfortunately that'd break the bank l guess. Wouldn't a new manager and all their backroom staff just be on the same wages Noble and his back room staff would free up? If Noble goes, my money is on Wheeler or Meakes or one of the Mozzarella Fellas |
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 1, 2024 19:09:22 GMT
Wheeler or meakes hardly suitable replacements for noble, just more of the same.
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 1, 2024 19:09:58 GMT
Or chicken George?
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