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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2014 19:49:59 GMT
Also to note that today's report was written by a trainee reporter, his first Saints match. (That's what I've gathered, anyway) What do you mean, that's what you've gathered? It either was or it wasn't. The trainee reporter needs to work on his attendance estimations, by the way. The idea that Frendo might come back a better player by just watching El Clasico is frankly ludicrous. And taking the whole squad too! It's not under-9 football. There were two reporters from the Herts Ad today, and so I'm told, the junior reporter was the one who wrote the report, but didn't want to commit 100% to that as the senior reporter may have had some input, so thus I said gathered... Jeez. It was the senior reporter who passed across the amusing attendance estimation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 19:56:13 GMT
I thought we had the better clear cut chances in the first half, although Concord had the better of the possession. Second half I can't remember a single shot on goal. You would've thought Frendo's missus would know to be wary of weekend trips away during the football season, and it's not the first game he's missed, but also I don't know if he would've made much difference. Four in ten this season is it?
Does anyone else think a knackered Lee Clarke or a knackered Super Stevie Wales would've been slightly more effective than a slightly knackered Ben Martin up front for the last ten minutes?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 19:58:51 GMT
What do you mean, that's what you've gathered? It either was or it wasn't. The trainee reporter needs to work on his attendance estimations, by the way. The idea that Frendo might come back a better player by just watching El Clasico is frankly ludicrous. And taking the whole squad too! It's not under-9 football. There were two reporters from the Herts Ad today, and so I'm told, the junior reporter was the one who wrote the report, but didn't want to commit 100% to that as the senior reporter may have had some input, so thus I said gathered... Jeez. It was the senior reporter who passed across the amusing attendance estimation. So why bring it up in the first place?
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2014 20:02:14 GMT
There were two reporters from the Herts Ad today, and so I'm told, the junior reporter was the one who wrote the report, but didn't want to commit 100% to that as the senior reporter may have had some input, so thus I said gathered... Jeez. It was the senior reporter who passed across the amusing attendance estimation. So why bring it up in the first place? Because I was replying to Recentconvert asking why the Herts Ad didn't have any mention of Frendo's absence, and I was giving a possible reason for that? I wanted to give the Herts Ad some defence, nothing major.... It's a silly issue that you're getting stuck up on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 20:12:20 GMT
So the junior reporter might've done the report, with some input (or not) from the senior reporter. Either way, no mention. Not much of a defence. Good to know they've got two reporters now though, considering there have been zero at some games recently.
Concord's time-wasting, frustrating, hassling tactics were unfortunately inevitable after we went 1-0 down, which is always the way. It also felt to me like we could've played for another 90 minutes without scoring anyway...
Bring on the Trophy...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 20:43:13 GMT
Yellowalf - I can't imagine that Frendo will come away from watching that game a worse player and I would hope that he might pick up some hints. He's our best striker and throwing the proverbial baby out with the bathwater by suggesting he is discarded by the club is ludicrous.
Yes, we might decide to greet his first few touches in his next game with an "Ole!" or three but, really, we need him more than any other player in our squad. Why weaken the squad by chucking out his ability in a fit of pique?
I quess everybody is entitled to their opinion, and I will try and adhere to the forum rules in replying. Not sure which parts are attempts at humour or which if any you are serious about. I personally feel insulted that Frendo has gone off to Spain purely for leisure purposes when the rest of the squad are out on the pitch battling to get through to the First Round of the F.A.Cup. I want the club to have high standards of discipline,it doesn't matter to me if he is the best player in the squad or the worst. Will it be okay with you if Chappell goes off to watch Tottenham next week instead of going to Bath ? then the following week Comley wants to go shopping on Saturday afternoon ? Nine hundred people,well eight hundred and ninety-nine ( not you obviously) including Per and Lena who flew all the way from Oslo ,came today to cheer on John Frendo to score and carry us through in this huge game and he couldn't give a toss. If he is selected at Bath next week I will be booing him,and if you start giving it the Ole's I'll be booing you too !
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2014 20:57:34 GMT
I'd imagine they'll be a fair bit of fall out this week, hopefully we'll see at the very least some discipline from the club over this matter.
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Post by citycentresaint on Oct 25, 2014 21:17:09 GMT
Frendo always gives 100 percent when he is on the pitch.
I don't know what has happened this season.
Hope it can all be sorted out as he is a gifted footballer.
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Post by Hatboy on Oct 25, 2014 21:47:05 GMT
Very,very upset about the 'no show' of Frendo. I am right with EFMFTV with this - Frendo has to be put on the transfer list and never play for us again. And how will that benefit St Albans City FC? Were I a millionaire (and I can categorically state that I'm nowhere near it) and had we lost in the last round and had we not had a league game already scheduled (blimey that's a lot of conditionals!) I would have sourced 25 tickets to El Classico and taken the entire squad over plus coaching staff. Watch and learn, I would have told them. I can't imagine that Frendo will come away from watching that game a worse player and I would hope that he might pick up some hints. He's our best striker and throwing the proverbial baby out with the bathwater by suggesting he is discarded by the club is ludicrous. Yes, we might decide to greet his first few touches in his next game with an "Ole!" or three but, really, we need him more than any other player in our squad. Why weaken the squad by chucking out his ability in a fit of pique? Firstly if you can't rely on a player to turn up for games whether it is for berevments, holidays or jollies there is no point having them in your team. Secondly I'm sure we could get as good a striker at this level (probably better check out his conference south record) with the wages and goal bonuses
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Post by eartheart on Oct 25, 2014 22:38:10 GMT
It would be a big miss ti lose Frendo but if the rumours are true it is not good enough. He must at least lose a few weeks wages as he was not there to help us win a potential £12,500. it certainly must not happen again - not fair on the fans or the club and he needs a deep talking with about what our expectations are. For a club like us today was the probably the biggest day of the season
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Oct 25, 2014 22:59:26 GMT
Regarding the Herts Ad's coverage for a moment...
The ONLY story of the day is the absence of last season's too scorer (and one of the highest earners) from a match that could have seen the club through to the first round of the FA Cup.
If he was out injured, I'd have expected that to be mentioned prominently. That there may be another more newsworthy reason for his absence makes it doubly mystifying why there was no mention.
A reporter with their eyes on a career that extends beyond the Herts Ad at some point would, I'd have thought, taken one look at the team sheet and asked why Frendo was not playing. A keen-eyed reporter would have kept their nose to the ground and seen on this forum that Benny03 had mentioned on Friday night that Frendo would be absent and would have asked further questions. Whatever the reason, it's a good story.
As for the general backlash, I agree with Lonecrank and others who are disappointed.
It doesn't look good, having hiked up the prices, that the club can't keep one of its most expensive assets on the pitch.
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2014 23:07:06 GMT
I know that of one or two reporters that do follow this forum, but I'm not sure if the Herts Ad are even aware it exists... I can give you his personal email though if you'd like Recentconvert haha, maybe he needs to read your post (The Herts Ad coverage is pretty poor at times, and I know the editors wanted much improved coverage on last seasons)
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Post by Boomer on Oct 25, 2014 23:31:22 GMT
I personally feel insulted that Frendo has gone off to Spain purely for leisure purposes when the rest of the squad are out on the pitch battling to get through to the First Round of the F.A.Cup. I want the club to have high standards of discipline,it doesn't matter to me if he is the best player in the squad or the worst. Will it be okay with you if Chappell goes off to watch Tottenham next week instead of going to Bath ? then the following week Comley wants to go shopping on Saturday afternoon ? Nine hundred people,well eight hundred and ninety-nine ( not you obviously) including Per and Lena who flew all the way from Oslo ,came today to cheer on John Frendo to score and carry us through in this huge game and he couldn't give a toss. Never a truer word, lonecrank. The whole episode is a disgrace.
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Post by COYS on Oct 25, 2014 23:43:16 GMT
The impression I get is that John Frendo seems to think he's doing us all this huge favour by playing for us. Yes he's a big part of the reason we're in the Conference South and yes he's an important part of the team, but that's what he's paid to do. Playing semi-professional isn't voluntary once you've signed a contract and have made a commitment to a club. As some on here have already pointed out, the club spends big money on having him here, money that could be spent elsewhere on players that care about the club and its fans.
Pretty sad considering how accommodating the club has been with his personal issues of late.
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Post by EFMTFTV on Oct 26, 2014 0:05:39 GMT
Okay, so it was Frendo's 30th birthday. Now, I don't know about you, but I went to work on my 30th birthday. On my 30th birthday I shagged Jarvis Cocker from Pulps sister and took a load of viagra But I would have played a FA Cup game instead
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Post by St Michael on Oct 26, 2014 6:35:27 GMT
At least Boreham Wood lost too......and with any luck Concord will draw Warrington Town away and lose 1-0.
Actually, I wish them well.
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Post by Hatboy on Oct 26, 2014 8:08:36 GMT
Saints grounded as Concord soar to FA Cup glory by David Tavener
St Albans City’s bid for a shot at the Big Boys in the FA Cup floundered with the dampest of damp squibs at Clarence Park on Saturday as Concord Rangers, through Joe Gardner’s fine strike, encountered few problems in removing City at the final qualifying round stage of the competition.
City went into the game on the back of two good wins and roared on by the largest crowd seen at Clarence Park for a qualifying round FA Cup tie for exactly 20 years. Everything was in place for a memorable afternoon.
The memorable bit certainly happened, as Concord Rangers moved through to the competition proper for the first time in their 45 years history. But for City there was nothing more than frustration and bitter recriminations.
The frustration was borne of putting in a low-key performance on a very big occasion.
The bitter recrimination was aired by some supporters at the absence of star striker John Frendo who was at a ‘family function.’ With Frendo elsewhere, City fielded Lee Clarke in attack with support supplied by the in-form Sean Shields.
Unfortunately for the home side Shields was kept out of the play for far too much of the game and Clarke was left with precious little to feed off.
In the middle of the Park City were very much second best in terms of winning the ball and using it positively.
Concord, making their first visit to the Park, showed themselves to be a neat passing side.
Indeed, if there is a criticism of the way Rangers played, then it would be that they were over-elaborate in the City half of the pitch, and chances to seriously test the home side were lost as they looked for the perfect opening that seldom came their way.
Against a backdrop of glorious autumnal colours from the trees that surround the football stadium at Clarence Park, the match got underway with the visitors being quickest to settle and go on the offensive.
That said, Shields tried his luck inside the opening 15 seconds but his effort at the Hatfield Road goal bounced harmlessly wide.
The first genuine goalscoring opportunity came from a familiar route for City this season as Lee Chappell arrowed a long throw into the penalty area.
Ben Martin jumped but the ball clipped the head of Jack Lampe and went to Clarke at the back post. Clarke’s header back into the goalmouth was knocked over the bar by James Kaloczi.
Another aerial attack almost led to a goal when a Shields corner was glanced on by Steve Wales and hit Rangers player James White, forcing the debut-making keeper Joe Wright to pull off an outstanding tip over for another corner.
City also went close to claiming a freak goal when Charlie Gorman, who was highly impressive during the first half, whipped over a cross that Wright allowed to drop behind him when it, in fact, missed the target by not many inches.
It was a rare blip by Wright who, otherwise, was in good form and banished from the memory a nightmare afternoon he endured when visiting St Albans with Bishop’s Stortford in August.
Concord finally threatened the home goal late in the half when the industrious Gardner had a shot charged down and seconds later Steve Cawley flashed a good effort just over the home goal.
The pressure was maintained with Lewis Taaffe heading over from a cross by Gardner.
Possibly City’s best chance of the day went begging when Clarke cushioned a James Comley cross into the path of Wales, but the former England Non-League international had to stretch to reach the ball and could not get any power behind his shot.
In open play City continued to struggle to find any rhythm and it was of little surprise that the next threat again came from the air, as Kaloczi headed on a Chappell throw and Wright made a second flying punch away high to his left.
The visitors forced Welch into his first save of the day almost on the stroke of half time when Sam Collins sent a low shot towards goal.
Concord stepped up a gear straight after the interval and St Albans struggled to contain Danny Cowley’s side.
A lofted ball forward by White saw Taaffe get the better of Martin as the ball landed, but after being forced wide the Concord striker turned and curled a fine effort just beyond the far post.
City continued to live dangerously with Taaffe stretching to clip a volley just over the top following another Gardner cross.
For a while it seemed just a matter of time before Rangers would score, and on 64 minutes history was created when a cross by White ballooned off Ward at the near post and was superbly volleyed home by Gardner some 12 yards out.
Cawley, sent clear by Gardner, had a great opportunity to increase the lead but slashed his rushed shot into the band of travelling supporters.
Another chance was squandered when Welch clawed away a Cawley cross only as far as Gardner whose half volley went comfortably wide.
City have made good use of their substitutes this season but, for once, the three new faces – Sam Corcoran, Geoff Mitchell and David Keenleyside – failed to make a significant impact.
Even sending the giant Martin into the attack for closing stages failed to ruffle Concord’s feathers.
At the opposite end of the pitch Concord continued to pose problems with Jeremy Walker sending a long range shot just over the goal.
Despite bringing Shields more into play as the half wore on, St Albans still struggled to find a way through a most efficient Concord back line.
City joint-manager James Gray admitted that Concord deserved their victory and when speaking after the game hinted that the absent Frendo will have some explaining to do when he returns to Clarence Park during the week.
‘He let me down, he let the boys down. He is a talisman and will have given Concord a big boost to have seen the team sheet and see that he’s not on it,’ said Gray.
St Albans now have a free week in which to put their cup exit behind them and prepare for next Saturday’s (1st November) Conference South fixture away to Bath City.
St Albans City: J.Welch, J.Kyriacou, L.Chappell, C.Gorman, B.Martin, T.Ward, J.Kaloczi (S.Corcoran 59), J.Comley, L.Clarke (G.Mitchell 69), S.Shields, S.Wales (D.Keenleyside 75), unused subs; D.Green, J.Watson, M.Tewkesbury.
Booked: Chappell (55).
Concord Rangers: J.Wright, J.Walker, D.Glozier, A.Woodyard, J.Lampe, M.Fry, J.Gardner (S.King 82), J.White, L.Taaffe (T.Stokes 72), S.Collins, S.Cawley (G.Ogilvie 88), unused subs; C.Alexander, T.Miles, R.Kabashi.
Booked: White (61).
Goal: 64 0-1 Gardner.
Referee: John Busby (Wallingford).
Att: 953.
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Post by westwalessaint on Oct 26, 2014 9:13:58 GMT
Well, I was very disappointed with the match. Apart from one good save from their goalie in the first half, we never threatened. In the second half they were the better team and deserved it. Pity they only looked like that they had about 30 supporters or we'd have had over 1,000. If Frenfo had a genuine family issue that cropped up at the last minute, that would be one thing. If, however, he went on a jolly - birthday or no birthday - then that's a completely different matter. If the latter is the case, disciplinary action is required. Listening to James Grays remarks, I think that'll be the case. The whole situation was hugely disappointing. I felt sorry for myself after travelling 250 miles and various traffic jams on Saturday morning but the Norwegian supporters travelled and spent considerably more. Anyway, like any true supporter - I'll be at Bath next Saturday.
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Post by theduffers on Oct 26, 2014 9:25:36 GMT
Regarding Frendo, I was in the Club bar when the rumour first emerged. All I will say is it came from a very trustworthy and reliable source!!! The rumour spread quickly and was confirmed by others. I confronted Lawrence Lvevy and he looked shocked and mistified that Mr. Frendo could be in Spain as he had phoned in sick. By the time the game had finished I was sitting on the table next to the players at the same time it seems that they became aware of the whereabouts of our super striker. I watched on as Ben Martin approached Jimmy Gray and said it's true about Frendo.....Jimmy looked furious and seemed to struggle to hold his anger!!! I have read all of the above posts regarding his wife buying him a birthday present and that's all sweet and rosy however he is playing for a club who could have earn t a massive pay day by drawing a big club in the next round. The news of Frendo must have reached the Management and the players late in the day and would have effected the system, line up and team spirit hence could have effected the result...
The End!!!!!!!me thinks
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Post by knockers on Oct 26, 2014 10:29:17 GMT
Came away yest eve very dissappointed by the way we played, seemed to lack appetite for game considering it was massive financially for club. Missing John Frendo didnt help team effort, but i still thought with players out there we should have e.nuff goals in side to do business, excellent support from saints fans again, just have to suck it up and get on with it next sat at bath and hope yest was just a blip in form. Lets start another run and push up conf south table. Congrats to Concord who played good game and deservedly took money and first round place. Show faith COYS
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Post by Hatboy on Oct 26, 2014 11:44:28 GMT
Not quite sure why it's on YouTube !
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Post by Saint on Oct 26, 2014 11:49:47 GMT
Not quite sure why it's on YouTube ! Because Webbo has been away for the past few days, and the only way I can get it up on the club website is through Youtube! I don't have his website editing abilities!
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Post by notsorecentconvert on Oct 26, 2014 18:24:58 GMT
I'm a big fan of Dave T's interviews but disappointed that Frendo's absence is alluded to but not explained.
It can be explained without turning it into a witch-hunt.
But it's a shame that information seems to be something that only a privileged few are allowed access to.
If the star striker, top scorer and talisman (as the manager describes him) misses a huge cup game the fans have a right to know why that was, especially with the rumours flying about.
Glossing over it and hoping it goes away is unwise.
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Post by knockers on Oct 26, 2014 18:59:18 GMT
When was last time saints had crowd of 950 at home other than mansfield last season. Surely must been conf days?
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Post by casper on Oct 26, 2014 19:24:51 GMT
When was last time saints had crowd of 950 at home other than mansfield last season. Surely must been conf days? March 2009 at home against AFC Wimbledon the crowd was 1105.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 21:12:52 GMT
Regarding Frendo, I was in the Club bar when the rumour first emerged. All I will say is it came from a very trustworthy and reliable source!!! The rumour spread quickly and was confirmed by others. I confronted Lawrence Lvevy and he looked shocked and mistified that Mr. Frendo could be in Spain as he had phoned in sick. By the time the game had finished I was sitting on the table next to the players at the same time it seems that they became aware of the whereabouts of our super striker. I watched on as Ben Martin approached Jimmy Gray and said it's true about Frendo.....Jimmy looked furious and seemed to struggle to hold his anger!!! I have read all of the above posts regarding his wife buying him a birthday present and that's all sweet and rosy however he is playing for a club who could have earn t a massive pay day by drawing a big club in the next round. The news of Frendo must have reached the Management and the players late in the day and would have effected the system, line up and team spirit hence could have effected the result... The End!!!!!!!me thinks A little confused - I heard before kick off that Frendo was in Spain, but the players and Gray only found out in the clubhouse after? How did word get to me before them, and before kick off as opposed to after full time. This is all very odd, and very disappointing, obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 8:28:17 GMT
#11thman
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Post by cheshuntsaint on Oct 27, 2014 10:19:12 GMT
I'm not going to talk anymore about the Frendo situation until we have an official statement from the management and himself regarding what on earth is going on. The one thing I will say is: I don't agree with abusing anyone on social media, a Saints supporter sent an angry tweet to Frendo on Saturday - and Lee Chappell responded with a stupid abusive tweet to the supporter - absolutely shocking to see.
Moving onto the game - very disappointing, thought we could have gone in at the half in the lead, if it wasnt for a few superb saves from a couple of flick on headers. Second half we created nothing, throwing big Geoff into the mix in the last 20 didn't really add much as he spent most of the time outside the area trying to fizz balls out wide etc, maybe him and Clarke would have worked together?
Very frustrating.
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Post by yellowalf on Oct 27, 2014 12:37:03 GMT
Not to mention flights. If they did make a mistake with the date then they would booked flights for the Sunday and, when the game was changed, hope there was availability for a late change to Saturday. However, as you make clear above, they must have know that the game was on a Saturday six weeks ago in which case Frendo knew he would miss the scheduled League fixture against Farnborough anyway. Let me clarify something that might have been misunderstood by some: I am also very unhappy that Frendo chose to pick El Classico over playing in a cup game, or even a league game for that matter. However, I choose to let the Saints disciplinary process deal with the issue rather than a fans psuedo-vigilante group demanding all sorts of action that may not be in the club's interests. We're short enough for quality strikers as it is without losing Frendo's work-rate and experience. I know he hasn't scored many goals this season but didn't Jimmy point to a change of formation as the reason for that; unless that was an attempt to protect his best striker's disappointing record. If we can get a quality replacement for him then I would accept that his behaviour has crossed the point of no return, but what is the point if kicking him out only to potentially see him move to a rival club and score a hatful of goals for them that may be detrimental to our league position. The club shouldn't cut its proverbial nose off to spite its face. Anyway, whatever happens to Frendo, I'll back Gray/Golds/Levy's decision on what to do about his Spanish holiday.
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