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Post by saint68 on Jun 14, 2020 12:58:25 GMT
IF he’s genuinely repentant and IF it’s his first offence and IF he can stay out of prison, then he’s welcome to join us. If not, then I don’t want him within a mile of the Club! And that’s assuming next season happens at all ......
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Post by stafans on Jun 14, 2020 13:59:41 GMT
Why should it matter? As long as he’s not causing problems with the club and playing well surely it would be beneficial to have him. We haven’t even seen the guy yet give him a chance
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Post by saint68 on Jun 14, 2020 14:24:20 GMT
Maybe I just don’t like drug dealers! However, I agree that everyone deserves a second chance and if he’s genuine I’m happy for the Club to offer him one.
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Post by stafans on Jun 14, 2020 16:22:05 GMT
You’re judging the guy before you’ve seen him play or met him, time will tell what he will be like, but I’m not passing judgement yet. Don’t reduce the guy to being a drug dealer yet cmon now.
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Post by saint68 on Jun 14, 2020 16:43:10 GMT
Fair enough, I guess time will tell.
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Post by lagerman on Jun 14, 2020 22:15:49 GMT
Personally, l would say lets see what happens.
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Post by albanian on Jun 15, 2020 9:08:50 GMT
Definitely him. Hope he's learned from his mistakes !! The trouble is, lads like him are young men first and foremost, and footballers second. Nothing will ever change that, its culture, they'll always be young men first and footballers second. In the past, albeit you could say it was a long time in the past, such was their good behaviour, they'd be footballers first with no distractions Not really sure what you're trying to say here. There's always been a small minority of footballers that get involved with crime, but it was easier to have a private past in the days before social media. Footballers are individuals like anyone else, with their own life experiences outside of football. Hopefully Devante Stanley has learnt from his mistakes and makes a big impact on the pitch for us.
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Post by casper on Jun 15, 2020 13:21:47 GMT
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Post by lagerman on Jun 15, 2020 17:53:39 GMT
The trouble is, lads like him are young men first and foremost, and footballers second. Nothing will ever change that, its culture, they'll always be young men first and footballers second. In the past, albeit you could say it was a long time in the past, such was their good behaviour, they'd be footballers first with no distractions Not really sure what you're trying to say here. There's always been a small minority of footballers that get involved with crime, but it was easier to have a private past in the days before social media. Footballers are individuals like anyone else, with their own life experiences outside of football. Hopefully Devante Stanley has learnt from his mistakes and makes a big impact on the pitch for us. What I'm trying to say is, that there are unfortunately, in this day and age, some distractions for young men in life, and they are young men first and foremost,and footballers secondly. It's just my opinion Albanian, the way l see it. Like anybody, they have their friends, but it is so easy to get into the wrong crowd, get involved with the wrong sort, like anybody. Perhaps there is a greater chance of Premiership footballers doing the wrong things, but we hear are likely to hear more about them as they are high profile, and in the press there have been things reported.
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Post by casper on Jun 15, 2020 18:47:35 GMT
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Post by bob666 on Jun 16, 2020 1:35:32 GMT
I guessing that all the deals we agree with players will be conditional on the 2020-21 season actually going ahead. But I have another question. I understand that we unlikely to play behind closed doors but we don't really know what playing in front of a crowd will actually mean in revenue terms. One issue, for example, if you look at pub reopening plans the management of toilet facilities seems key. Given that we are already quite poor in this area, I cannot see how we insure safety, my guess is that we will have to keep the toilets shut. So we cannot really sell beer if we cannot deal with the inevitable consequences of beer consumption. Also we could have additional crowd control costs or a attendance limit. So even if the season goes ahead our potential revenue/ non-playing costs are unknowable, so how can we agree a fee per game or weekly wage for players? It would be good to agree terms in principle with core players. However, maybe we should be keeping our powder dry until the situation is clear. Given the financial turmoil in the game there will, sadly, be lots of talented players looking for new clubs when football resumes.
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Post by albanian on Jun 16, 2020 14:39:42 GMT
Not really sure what you're trying to say here. There's always been a small minority of footballers that get involved with crime, but it was easier to have a private past in the days before social media. Footballers are individuals like anyone else, with their own life experiences outside of football. Hopefully Devante Stanley has learnt from his mistakes and makes a big impact on the pitch for us. What I'm trying to say is, that there are unfortunately, in this day and age, some distractions for young men in life, and they are young men first and foremost,and footballers secondly. It's just my opinion Albanian, the way l see it. Like anybody, they have their friends, but it is so easy to get into the wrong crowd, get involved with the wrong sort, like anybody. Perhaps there is a greater chance of Premiership footballers doing the wrong things, but we hear are likely to hear more about them as they are high profile, and in the press there have been things reported. Fair enough. Just not sure there's any reason to think footballers are less committed nowadays (or more likely to get in trouble with the law). Footballers have always been young men first and foremost, especially at our level.
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Post by lagerman on Jun 16, 2020 22:02:28 GMT
What I'm trying to say is, that there are unfortunately, in this day and age, some distractions for young men in life, and they are young men first and foremost,and footballers secondly. It's just my opinion Albanian, the way l see it. Like anybody, they have their friends, but it is so easy to get into the wrong crowd, get involved with the wrong sort, like anybody. Perhaps there is a greater chance of Premiership footballers doing the wrong things, but we hear are likely to hear more about them as they are high profile, and in the press there have been things reported. Fair enough. Just not sure there's any reason to think footballers are less committed nowadays (or more likely to get in trouble with the law). Footballers have always been young men first and foremost, especially at our level. No, l don't think footballers are less committed nowadays or more likely to get into trouble with the law than anybody else, I'm just saying, as we all know from reading the newspapers, they have occasion ally been known 2 get into unsavoury situations.
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Post by supersonic on Jun 17, 2020 9:53:28 GMT
I wouldn't get too excited. Even if the season starts and if last season is anything to go by, all the new great hope signings will be binned off to Hendon before Christmas. Anyone got Sambou or Lucien's mobile numbers? - best give them a bell.
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 17, 2020 11:25:27 GMT
I wouldn't get too excited. Even if the season starts and if last season is anything to go by, all the new great hope signings will be binned off to Hendon before Christmas. Anyone got Sambou or Lucien's mobile numbers? - best give them a bell. Ben Wyatt first please
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Post by stafans on Jun 17, 2020 12:51:09 GMT
I wouldn't get too excited. Even if the season starts and if last season is anything to go by, all the new great hope signings will be binned off to Hendon before Christmas. Anyone got Sambou or Lucien's mobile numbers? - best give them a bell. Ben Wyatt first please Thought he was at Sutton now, if so we have no chance!
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Post by sideshowbob on Jun 17, 2020 19:29:28 GMT
if we manage to play again this year we will struggle, small budget and players from lower level sides.
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Post by casper on Jun 18, 2020 15:43:48 GMT
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Post by EFMTFTV on Jun 20, 2020 13:28:19 GMT
Maybe I just don’t like drug dealers! . They provide an important service to the local community
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Post by lagerman on Jun 21, 2020 23:25:49 GMT
if we manage to play again this year we will struggle, small budget and players from lower level sides. The thing is, it'll be consistency that we need for next season, but that's what every body strives for really and we really lacked that last season. I was looking in todays NLP at the final NLS table based on PPG earlier on, and of the top 6 teams, we only lost away to one of them, and that was Wealdstone, and l actually didn't think we played too bad in that one, losing just 1 nil, only conceding near the end. If only we could've hung on a bit longer, but we just switched off for their goal. We got great away results against the other top sides, draws at Slough & Dartford, wins at Havant, Weymouth and Bath We just lost silly games, Braintree at home, Tonbridge away, they spring to mind. Consistency has let us down in recent seasons, we'd give the good sides a run for their money, but fail against the lesser teams, Whitehawk, Hungerford and Poole spring to mind from previous seasons, and we have to get that right
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Post by ahad43 on Jun 23, 2020 8:21:40 GMT
I wonder when the new players or re-signed players' deals are actually running from given that we don't really know when next season will actually start, do we?
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Post by saint68 on Jun 25, 2020 13:27:12 GMT
Lewis Gordon has been released by Watford. He’ll probably be snapped up for next season by someone a level or two higher than us, but I can dream ..... that’s assuming there is a next season in the National League.
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Post by expatsaint on Jun 25, 2020 15:59:56 GMT
I would imagine that we would be very keen to offer Lewis Gordon a one-year contract if it was financially viable. I'm not too sure what his weekly wage would have been as an academy player at Watford, but it may well be in his best interest to come back to us in order to play regularly. He would be putting himself in the shop window, assuming that his performance levels with us are maintained, and would thus be giving his career a chance to blossom once again. I see that Jamie Fielding is one of just a handful of players retained by Stevenage. It would appear that they are likely to include him on a fairly regular basis as part of their squad in the forthcoming National League season. We must have at least some chance of seeing Frankie Musonda back at Clarence Park in the coming months. I counted 35 first-team players listed on Luton Town's official website, including four goalkeepers, which seems really extravagant to me. It's no wonder the loan market for players, particularly between EFL and National League clubs is so active. Do these clubs really, seriously need a playing-staff that large?
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Post by casper on Jun 29, 2020 15:58:55 GMT
Frankie Musonda has been released by Luton Town.
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Post by expatsaint on Jun 29, 2020 17:22:06 GMT
We could do a lot worse than look to offer Frankie Musonda a one-year contract. He did a good job for us in his two spells last season. At 23 years of age and having made just 14 senior appearances for Luton in the past 4 years, the player may have to seriously consider his short-term career options. There will be many players facing similar problems in the coming months as clubs at all levels seek to trim their budgets. I'm not too sure whether we would be able to offer Frankie a salary that is anywhere near comparable to what he was getting at Kenilworth Road. I suspect that Luton heavily subsidised his wages during his time with us last season.
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Post by lagerman on Jun 30, 2020 9:56:09 GMT
We could do a lot worse than look to offer Frankie Musonda a one-year contract. He did a good job for us in his two spells last season. At 23 years of age and having made just 14 senior appearances for Luton in the past 4 years, the player may have to seriously consider his short-term career options. There will be many players facing similar problems in the coming months as clubs at all levels seek to trim their budgets. I'm not too sure whether we would be able to offer Frankie a salary that is anywhere near comparable to what he was getting at Kenilworth Road. I suspect that Luton heavily subsidised his wages during his time with us last season. Well if we try to get him, I'd like to see him in our squad, he did well for us, but l fear that he'll be out of our reach and he'll be looking to play at a higher level
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Post by saint68 on Jun 30, 2020 10:06:08 GMT
I would imagine Frankie Musonda and Lewis Gordon will both want to stay full-time which rules us out.
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Post by stafans on Jun 30, 2020 10:58:05 GMT
I don’t think he’d be worth the money that we would most likely have to shell out on him, he was good, but there’s no point breaking the bank over him.
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Post by casper on Jul 7, 2020 11:45:01 GMT
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Post by saint68 on Jul 7, 2020 11:53:01 GMT
A shame. I know Deano had his critics but I think he was an excellent shot stopper. I wish him well.
The new keeper has a decent pedigree so hopefully he’ll be a good replacement.
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