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Post by bob666 on Aug 6, 2020 23:47:42 GMT
No one can say for certain what will happen. This might be a odd argument but I think the club should avoid issuing any playing contracts that are not on a pay as you play basis. The club need to keep fixed costs as low as possible.I don't think there will be any relegation this year as a number of teams will fold- Dover seem to be on edge as well. I think this is a year when financial prudence needs to dominate sporting ambition. Of course I may be wrong but as I see it the government are desperate to avoid a second lockdown, the r rate is probably above one and there is pressure to reopen schools. The last thing you are going to want to do in this situation is free up activities that are not at the core of the economy and have the potential to increase transmission. Even premier league matchday revenue is only £677 million per annum. The wider economic impact of suspending large scale events is not massive and even as a football fan I can understand why you might suspend these activities. I hope I am wrong but I think the club needs to plan for a long period without crowds. I can only really see things improving with a potential vaccine and improved treatment next year.
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Post by casper on Aug 22, 2020 10:26:39 GMT
Trying Athletic have cancelled all games this weekend due to reported outbreaks of covid-19 in the area. This could be the normal for the coming season where local outbreaks occur and games are temporarily stopped.
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Post by bob666 on Aug 22, 2020 12:50:46 GMT
Trying Athletic have cancelled all games this weekend due to reported outbreaks of covid-19 in the area. This could be the normal for the coming season where local outbreaks occur and games are temporarily stopped. I sure you are right. I expect fixture chaos this season. I think the FA trophy should have been rested this year to create a little more space in the schedule to mitigate these issues
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Post by saint68 on Aug 22, 2020 13:11:25 GMT
It would be a shame to lose the FA Trophy. If we could guarantee an uninterrupted season (with or without fans) I think there would be room for one-off ties in Midweek. The problem is if there’s a Winter spike we could spend two or three months in Lockdown again.
I definitely think the County Cups should be called off though, if they haven’t been already. I believe the Berks and Bucks FA have already done this.
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Post by EFMTFTV on Aug 22, 2020 14:11:43 GMT
FA Trophy is happening, they've already drawn the first couple of rounds
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Post by bob666 on Aug 22, 2020 15:43:52 GMT
FA Trophy is happening, they've already drawn the first couple of rounds Yes, I know. My point was simply that additional postponements are inevitable and I think that it a mistake (overoptimistic) to think that a full season can be completed with no compromises. I quite like the FA Trophy but wonder if its a sacrifice that should have been made.
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Post by norfamptonsaint on Aug 23, 2020 14:04:32 GMT
I don’t know if it’s common knowledge (apologies if you know this already) and just heard it mentioned on BBC Test Match Special that non-league football clubs can admit fans provided that the attendance doesn’t exceed 15% of the ground capacity - which would be 555 for Clarence Park, based on 3,700 maximum. No room for creative crowd accounting, though.
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Post by casper on Aug 23, 2020 14:12:14 GMT
I don’t know if it’s common knowledge (apologies if you know this already) and just heard it mentioned on BBC Test Match Special that non-league football clubs can admit fans provided that the attendance doesn’t exceed 15% of the ground capacity - which would be 555 for Clarence Park, based on 3,700 maximum. No room for creative crowd accounting, though. Hendon will be allowing some fans in for our game on Tuesday evening but not away supporters. At least they are being open about who will be allowed in, unlike us. hendonfc.net/News/7938/Further+details+for+Tuesday+night
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Post by saint68 on Aug 23, 2020 14:15:07 GMT
I believe that only refers to clubs at Step 3 and below and unfortunately The National League has the same guidelines as the Premier League and the EFL I.e. no fans until October 1st. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong!
Also, isn’t our official capacity more that that? I thought it was about 4,000-4,500.
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Post by gazza2402 on Aug 23, 2020 15:37:09 GMT
I believe we will be allowed circa 800
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Post by lagerman on Aug 23, 2020 22:26:14 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if some Clubs ban away fans this coming season, in order to keep within the required limited attendance figures, those Clubs who get good followings.
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Post by stafans on Aug 23, 2020 23:27:27 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if some Clubs ban away fans this coming season, in order to keep within the required limited attendance figures, those Clubs who get good followings. That would be a huge shame if that were the case as the away games are always the most enjoyable for me, we will just have to wait and see.
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Post by casper on Aug 24, 2020 5:56:22 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if some Clubs ban away fans this coming season, in order to keep within the required limited attendance figures, those Clubs who get good followings. That would be a huge shame if that were the case as the away games are always the most enjoyable for me, we will just have to wait and see. Banning of away fans may not be down to the clubs. It could be part of the requirements set by the government/FA under covid-19 restrictions.
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Post by lagerman on Aug 24, 2020 10:28:20 GMT
So, once we are given the go ahead in steps 1 & 2 to allow fans back in, home fans only or otherwise, what will the next steps be, how will it go ? I suppose as soon as the National League get the okay, fixtures will be then be drawn, but will each Club get checked to ensure that they have put the appropriate social distancing measures in place before the season starts and possibly not be allowed to start if they haven't satisfied the NL administrators ?
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Post by stafans on Aug 24, 2020 11:29:06 GMT
So, once we are given the go ahead in steps 1 & 2 to allow fans back in, home fans only or otherwise, what will the next steps be, how will it go ? I suppose as soon as the National League get the okay, fixtures will be then be drawn, but will each Club get checked to ensure that they have put the appropriate social distancing measures in place before the season starts and possibly not be allowed to start if they haven't satisfied the NL administrators ? I could possibly see a thing where away fans could go but as long as both clubs are within a certain distance of each other, so even if there is a case geographically it doesn’t travel that far.
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Post by EFMTFTV on Aug 24, 2020 11:33:05 GMT
I don't know how you could ban away fans, unless every club had a paid membership scheme, you'd just go online and buy the tickets
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Post by supersonic on Aug 24, 2020 13:13:32 GMT
the whole things sounds like a right old rigmarole. It will be like the proverbial watching a football game in a library. Seriously doing some thinking about the cons of not renewing the season ticket.
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Post by boojiboy on Sept 9, 2020 14:25:15 GMT
Doncaster Races have scrapped their test event and crowds won't be allowed back in after today.
Not looking good for the start of the season.
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Post by lagerman on Sept 9, 2020 16:42:29 GMT
The Doncaster races thing does not bode well for the start of the season, l agree, but by the sounds of things, that might've just been a bit over-optimistic to have been included in the Governments pilot scheme to have spectators back at sports events. Doncaster sounded a bit too grand to me. There are a lot of events going on at the moment that are having spectators back on trial, so it's going to be an overall thing really. But of course the other thing now on the horizon (from next Monday) is the Gov'ment restriction of not more than 6 people in groups inside and outside, apart from some exceptions, although allegedly one of those is organized sports events. Who knows what's going to happen with regards to spectators being allowed back into games at steps 1 and 2 non league level and the EFL and Prem above. As long as that virus is still out there, and infections and deaths are rising and the vaccines still being months away, it's going to be a long and rocky road ahead still
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Post by gazza2402 on Sept 9, 2020 18:03:44 GMT
Does not look good at the moment after the latest announcement
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Post by sideshowbob on Sept 9, 2020 19:18:15 GMT
season probably won't start, horse racing has been called off, its all becoming rather ridiculous.
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Post by gazza2402 on Sept 9, 2020 19:45:30 GMT
Very worrying times for sure
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Post by casper on Sept 9, 2020 21:08:25 GMT
Sports Minister Oliver Dowden has tweeted this earlier today.
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Post by lagerman on Sept 9, 2020 22:27:08 GMT
Well I'm sure non-league Clubs below steps 1&2 would certainly appreciate knowing something before this Saturday as their league seasons are due to get underway from this Saturday. The FA Cup is of course also due to re-commence again this Saturday for the minnows still in it.
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Post by euclid on Sept 9, 2020 22:52:27 GMT
No changes for Step 3 clubs and below. All allowed 30% of their leagues minimun ground capacity.
Looking a bad move now by the National League, insisting they be treated as 'elite' clubs !!
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Post by gazza2402 on Sept 10, 2020 6:33:44 GMT
I see Tonbridge Angel's have following the latest announcement suspended season ticket sales
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Post by ahad43 on Sept 10, 2020 6:44:54 GMT
I see Tonbridge Angel's have following the latest announcement suspended season ticket sales Probably time for us to announce another form of club membership scheme then
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Post by lagerman on Sept 10, 2020 9:45:30 GMT
Yeah I've read that too about what Tonbridge have done. You can't blame them for erring on the side of caution l guess, but if nothing further changes, at what point between now and the supposed start of the NLS season do you start issuing season tickets, if you hold back. You have to give the process time and by the sounds of things, Tonbridge had already started issuing them.
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Post by casper on Sept 10, 2020 19:15:10 GMT
The Premier League are funding a Matchday Support Fund for Steps 1 - 6, Women's Pyramid Step 1 - 5 and Welsh Premier League clubs to assist with any additional costs of making the ground covid secure on matchdays. footballfoundation.org.uk/grant/matchday-support-fund
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Post by gazza2402 on Sept 10, 2020 19:22:12 GMT
See trial event cambridge v Carlisle where 1000 supporters were to be allowed is cancelled I fear for lower leagues
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